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So are we all gonna take pics? come to think of it....if i did put up a photo i would be giving away my trade secrets...just as the rest of my brothers would be doing too this is the place where all sub .000001 moa rifles are born...... Wash

Hell yes does my kitchen table count too? Wash

Mag dont be so fast to pull the trigger....ive got ya beat I bet... Wash

Brothers....I dont know if its been done before,but it might be nice to have a contest or poll or sumthin to show off our awesome work benches, or areas where we come up with these masterful pieces. What do Yall think? Wash

Thanks! I pretty pleased her to have me give the pics up....got the stink eye bad from her ! Wash

Just messin with ya cause I dont have a piston rifle ..... but if I did have a piston gun the way my luck is runnin...it would need a ring job and the piston would be burnt Wash you really think the bravo dirty 14 is for real? lol Ill take this one ! cut and paste from SWAT magazine filthy 14

Only thing ive seen was some crappy loads not cycling from them .......I ordered some 300 blk from these guys...used em before...they are local here good prices on some items and good ammo so far over the years http://beckammunition.com/#&panel1-2 they used to be called right to bear arms ammo Wash

Ill take this one ! no piston for me...... cut and paste from SWAT magazine the Bravo filthy 14 FILTHY 14 As of this writing, EAG students have 31,165 rounds downrange through Filthy 14. During this evaluation period, it was cleaned once (as in one time), at 26,245 rounds. The end result is that Rack #14 was—and remains—filthy. It is filthy because it has been shot at class. Only at class. Every round that has gone down that barrel has been fired at class, with an average of approximately 1,300 rounds every three days. It has been lubed generously with Slip 2000 Extreme Weapons Lube (EWL). The combination of carbon and lube create (wait for it)…filth. It is so dirty that, while sitting in the rifle rack, it is almost a biohazard. The filth oozes out and contaminates other carbines adjacent to it. But it is still shooting—and shooting well. Rack #14 is a 16-inch Bravo Company Mid Length Carbine—mid length meaning that the gas system is two inches longer than the standard carbine gas system. This permits the use of a nine-inch rail with the standard front sight base. Use of a clamp on the front sight will permit a longer rail to be used. The longer rail is necessary to accommodate some shooting styles, as well as to provide additional rail estate for the various white lights and IR lasers required to kill bad guys at night. Subjectively, the mid length system has a softer recoil impulse. The lower receiver is a Bravo Company USA M4A1, one of very few in circulation. It has a TangoDown BG-16 Pistol Grip. An LMT Sloping Cheekweld Stock (aka the Crane Stock) rides on the milspec receiver extension, as does a TangoDown PR-4 Sling Mount. The upper is a BCM item, with a milspec 16.1”, 1:7 twist barrel. The barrel steel is chrome moly vanadium (CMV) and certified under milspec Mil-B-11595E. The BCM bolt is machined from milspec Carpenter 158® gun quality steel, heat-treated per milspec, and then shot peened per Mil-S-13165. Once completed, each bolt is fired with a high-pressure test (HPT) cartridge and then magnetic particle inspected (MPI) in accordance with ASTM E1444. The handguard is a LaRue 15-9, the nine-inch model to allow full use of the available rail estate. We have a TangoDown BGV-MK46K Stubby Vertical Foregrip. We use TangoDown BP-4 Rail Panels. The primary sight is an Aimpoint T1 in a LaRue 660 Mount. The T1 is still on the same set of batteries, and it has never been shut off. The back-up sight is the Magpul MBUS and the sling is the Viking Tactics VTAC. This is a normal configuration for our guns, although stocks (Magpul CTR, Vltor I-Mod), BUIS (Troy), and day optic (Aimpoint M4s) may be substituted. IN SERVICE We received the carbine in late 2008 and put #14 into service shortly thereafter. At Brady, Texas, in March 2009, it suffered a malfunction, which was reduced with Immediate Action. The bolt was wiped down at 6,450 rounds. At Prairie du Chien, Wisconsin, in May 2009, it had several failures to extract, and the extractor spring was replaced at 13,010 rounds. This is far beyond the normal extractor spring life under these conditions. At Wamego, Kansas, in June 2009, two bolt lugs broke at 16,400 rounds. We replaced the BCG. Considering the firing schedule, this is within normal parameters. At Columbus, Ohio, in November 2009, we had several failures to extract at 24,450 rounds. The shooter gave it a field cleaning and replaced the extractor and extractor spring. At 28,905 rounds, we finally cleaned Filthy 14. As part of our year-end maintenance schedule, we inspect and replace parts as necessary. Filthy 14 looked like the inside of the crankcase of Uncle Ed’s ’49 Packard. It was disgusting to look at and contaminated everything near it, somewhat like the toner cartridges for old printers. I plopped it into a parts washer filled with Slip 725 parts cleaner, and 20 minutes later it was clean. Mostly clean, anyway. We have never used a bore brush in the barrel of this gun. We did run a patch down the barrel twice, but that was all. At 50 yards it still shoots two-inch groups, and we understand that it might not at 100 yards and beyond, but we are happy with the fact that, even at 50 yards, the gun is capable of tighter groups than most of the people running it. We have never used a chamber brush in this gun either. We were often told that this was an absolute must. Sure… At the last class in Casa Grande, Arizona, at approximately 30,000 rounds, we had several failures to extract. We replaced the extractor spring and wiped down the BCG. By the time you read this, we’ll likely have another 3,000 to 4,000 rounds through Filthy 14. At that point we’ll probably retire it. We’ll reuse the LaRue rail, the sights and, after rebuilding the lower, replace that old and well-worn mid length upper with something else. Fourteen will continue, but just not as Filthy 14. WHY WE DID IT What was the point of this 15-month exercise? We know than an AR built to the spec will run more reliably for a longer period of time than a hobby gun. We have run a number of guns to over 15,000 rounds without cleaning—or malfunctions—as long as they were kept well lubricated. And because we have over 20 Bravo Company guns in the armory, we also understand that the quality of one is not an accident. My background of belonging to a tribe where weapons cleaning approached Jesuit-like fanaticism caused me to once believe that the AR must be spotlessly, white-glove clean in order for it to run. We know that is patently false, and in fact the overzealous cleaning regimen—clean for three days in a row, use of scrapers on the BCG, attaching chamber and bore brushes to drills, etc.—is harmful to the guns. We know that not all ARs are the same, and only a fool believes that “parts are parts.” If you want something that is visually similar to what the military uses, buy just about anything and you’ll be satisfied. But if you are going to use it for real, buy something that is made to the spec. Have realistic expectations. No gun—or car, plane, hibachi or person—lasts forever. Recently a customer sent an upper back to Bravo Company complaining that the gas tube was bent. It sure was. It was bent because the owner apparently fired 600 rounds downrange in full auto, causing the gas tube to melt into the barrel. If you want to be stupid, buy a lesser quality gun and save yourself some money. Again, let me repeat the caveat. If you are carrying a gun for real, you need to be looking at it every 5,000 rounds or so. But if your cleaning takes more than 10 to 15 minutes, you are wasting your time on nonsense. At a carbine class in Colorado last year, one-third of the carbines used (eight of 24) were Bravo Company guns. The fact that the Pueblo West classes are populated in large part by professionals means that this may be a clue. CONCLUSIONS The fact that Filthy 14 ran so long and well can be attributed to the following: First is the design of the gun. Cpl. Eugene Stoner knew what he was doing. Wash

i just ordered another 10 more boxes of these http://ammomart.com/308-winchester-ted-nugent-165gr-barnes-tsx-20-rounds they also have these http://ammomart.com/308-winchester-ted-nugent-180gr-barnes-ttsx-20-rounds I havnt shot them yet,but the reviews are great....the price is smoking hot....Ive inspected the first 10 boxes and they look mighty nice...course that dont mean crap Wash

Rene im glad you got the kinks out.....its gonna be a shooter for sure ! Wash

Way to go Sketch....good shootin.....reminds me...ill have to take out one of mine...forgot what the 762x39 can do Wash

Daamn...I forgot bout his 'skills"....yep he's already got em ! Wash

Yep there are pics....but my life would be in danger if I did... you know I would if I could Wash

Already got her brother ....dont have to camo up either... Wash

Dammit I swore no 300 blackouts for me....crap that barrel came to hardly nothing with a gas tube...Hell they payed me to take it off their hands, so then I went and ordered a rail...gas block....and 100 rounds of ammo......then what happens today? my AC went out in the house....Im fuuuuuked...and HOT Wash

Its officially hunting season....the temps are getting lower, almost 100 today.but we see a change coming .... We know its gonna be a great deer hunt....you know why? cause the 5 lil seeds Char planted bout 6 weeks ago are blooming...and its loco weed so there's gonna be plenty of loco weed tea, and seeds to chew while we are in pursuit of Mr Big Rack....

Way to go Sisco ! looks just like the egg as you said....the key to any good cook is letting the meat rest a lil.....the new hype is the salt stone ...i aint buying into that Wash

Mag hope your old spot is good to go....fingers crossed Wash

Yep they are ! but they do make fine bench guns..... ya beat em on the bench..then put em under the bench, and pull out a rifle that works ! Wash

MRM no crap bout the link! its not even in the manual....first time I cleaned em couldnt make it work...called the factory and the guy laffed his azz off....yep we get calls every day bout that ! Okay....char wont give up her escort...but how much do I have kick in on the trade? Wash

+1 for me.....you gonna have to go far to find a hunting spot? Wash

Wart two of the rifles I used were Mega's with maybe 200 rounds thru em if that. The other two were the Nexgen 12's with very few rounds. flitz on a mop and an elecrtic drill will work...done it once Wash

I have run it thru 4 different rifles....runs perfect...all of the ammo is that lot number up above....its great shootin ammo Wash

Exactly ! where is the outrage?? In my Texas no less....damn sad ill say Wash

Mine shoot fine...no problemos at all Wash lot # 1586 45724 /b 4570