I'm sure he'll tell you the same. As as for the group buy price I read that's why it now comes with a charging handle because the trigger builder said that's to low
I just talked to van today, I've had one on order since February 2 the builder is giving him the run around. He told me he'd refund me, but I told him I'd like one so I'll hold out alil longer.
I have it copied into my notes on my phone for special occasions and easy access. It actually was PM'd to someone a few months back. It needs to be read by everyone.