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I'm doing a lot better as you can tell by my excursion to the range. My wife was like "I don't think you should go until you talk to the doc" but I told the rifle was under my 20 lbs weight restriction 8) I'll be going in tomorrow for a follow up and see what he has to say. Even though I hate to say it I hope I don't have to be off work to much longer. I want to start working the scar tissue out by working out some but I'll wait until the doc gives me the all clear to do it. Yea its a nice range I'll get some better pics and post them up when I get a chance. Its an outdoor range with covered benches. If you look close you can see where the tards have shot the concrete baffles some have even shot the closest baffle to the benches but the range officers get on it right away when people get dangerous. Here is the web site for it http://mdc.mo.gov/regions/kansas-city/lake-city-shooting-range

Looks tasty very tasty <thumbsup> Angus?

This is probably one of the best if not the best deer I've ever had it was a young deer, spike

Oh ya 60* on a Friday had to get out to the range Did alright but all the off time from the winter weather showed its ugly head but a little adjustment on the scope a quick review of my shooting and I was hitting the bull with regularity again can't wait to get out again

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Our weather finally to a turn for the better so I had to break out a couple of venison stakes from this years harvest and have taste. Mmm mmm mmm good stuff kept it pretty simple today just some salt, pepper, and onion powder. Served with a baked potato

You know Terry I was wondering the same thing but with the black sealant on there its hard to tell.

Looking at your pic the compound looks to be broken or cracked right below the right support leg for the anvil. If the compound is broken or cracked it won't receive the full amount of shock or pressure to trigger the detonation of the compound thus your dud. BUT what we don't know is did the firing pin strike cause this or not if the firing pin strike line up with the crack then it probably did and just some bad compound. I have a friend that works at Lake City ammo plant on the fire crew and he said you can temporarily deactivate the primers with 409 cleaner. Then once the compound is dry its active again. I have yet to try this so I don't know if it works or not. I do have an old tula primer that got put in the pocket sideways and deformed if I get a chance to pick up some 409 I would like to try his advice but I haven't done this yet so if you decide to try deactivate a primer take all the safety precautions you can. Why am I telling you this? glad you asked I was thinking if you could wet it in 409 and see if the crack would solidify and become usable again and would also confirm the crack was the problem. When dry stick it in a piece of brass and try to see if it would light. Can you tell I have to much time on my hands since I had my surgery :stfu2:

Well I've been looking to develop an FTX load for this rifle maybe this will be the time to start since I can't trust my current loading with this lot of primers. I do find it strange though that I have been able to go through 500 of 1000 without a misfire oh well. I doubt I buy the Winchester primers again for one they seem to be smaller than other large rifle primers and loosen up in the pocket sooner than other brands of primers at least in the .308 but with the low pressure of the .30-30 I didn't think I was going to have to worry about primer pocket expansion so I figured these would be ok little did I know huh. Have you guy's noticed the same thing on size? or maybe it goes along with what survivalshop is saying just got the rejects from there ammo line.

Out of 1000 this is the only one that has done this so far. I have about 275 primers left in this lot along with 200 .30-30 rounds loaded up with them. I'm hoping this just a one bad one out of the bunch because this ammo is what I use for hunting. Would hate to here click instead of bang with a deer in my sights but I'm not going to pull these down because of one bad primer I'll chance it :eek: If you find your bad primer post a close up pic of it see it looks similar to my failed primer maybe we'll learn something. What I don't know but I thought it was pretty neat seeing the closeups of the primers. I can even see the sealant holding the anvil in.

Mmmmm gravy and this post would be when I'm eating grape nuts for the fiber <laughs> <lmao>

Well I'm sitting here with my sore belly bored out of my mind when I remembered that I had a dud round from my 170gr .30-30 loads and I wanted to see if I could find the reason for dud. So I went ahead and pulled the round it had the proper amount of powder and there was no clumping so no contamination that I could detect. After that I put my focus on the primer. The primers are winchester large rifle and I hit it twice at the range just to be sure I didn't seat the primer the first time around. Tried to look at the compound and anvil but my eyes aren't that good any more so I used the camera on macro setting to see and this is what I found It defanently doesn't look right so I decided to take a pic of it next a Winchester primer that fired normal and a new unfired primer from the same lot. The one on the left fired normal, middle one dud, right new. The one that failed looks gritty like sand but given the magnification of the pic I doubt its sand. Anybody have any clues what happened <dontknow>

I agree with this First one (left cartridge ) Is a Factory PPU 175gr match round Second ( middle) is my 147gr plinking load mixed brass (this one FC) Third my 168gr A-max load PPU brass twice fired. As you can see it looks like the factory round has no crimp at all and my A-max load has a light crimp. With the 147gr bullet having a cannelure I went with what I call a medium crimp because of the mixed cases the crimp will very some from round to round. I tried to measure the crimp up by the case mouth to show how much difference there is between them. Factory PPU 175gr .336" 147gr FC case .325" 168gr A-max PPU case .333

When you decide to do the precision loads try the OCW method of developing a load. http://optimalchargeweight.embarqspace.com/ For me it worked really well and was able to use a 100 yard range to develop the load unlike the ladder test that requires at least 300 yards to show the load and I don't have access to a range for that distance.

Cool <thumbsup> Maybe were going to start seeing some more components before the summer is here. Hope you can locate the 208's or 220's.

I hear ya there brother, I've been looking for 168 gr A-Max's it seems like forever <dontknow> Went to Cabelas on Thur. and found 4 boxes and snagged them all. Now I get to have some fun at the bench again <thumbsup>

I have had enough surgery for right now :yup:

Yea but you don't need your hands to eat pie. :banana:

The only problem I can't get past is the 60,000 psi on your cheek. If you had a kaboom it would make for a bad day.

Another candidate for the BUDS and no DOR will be accepted. I wish they would send these impostors to BUDS for a sample of what it means to be a SEAL.

Nice looking rifle and good review beachmaster <thumbsup>. Now I'm wanting to know if DPMS kept the accuracy that there earlier rifles are known for at least in the .308 market. I know my oracle shoots sub MOA with my reloads I hope they kept that kind precision going on the new model. Do you plan on putting some glass on it and see what its capable of doing accuracy wise? and with the thinner barrel and nut is barrel heating going to be more of an issue?

Well I'm back home now had some sleep and now it feels like somebody kicked me as hard as they could in the gut and my shoulders are feeling sore from the gas they used to blow me up. Have three new holes in me now and lots of pain meds. Thanks for the prayers and well wishes guy's it means a lot. Sisco, I liked that but laughing is kinda painful right now <laughs> :eek:

<laughs> Yea I may ask if he can do something about that to.

:eek: I'm glad your doing ok brother mines pretty petty compared to that. Thanks brother I know hernias are common especially in my line of work just still hate going under the knife.

I felt a strange muscle pull one day when I was doing setups then again at work right on top of my stomach about 2 weeks later I had a mass or bulge showing up around my navel. So keep an eye on the area of concern. Doc told me you can have complications if you put it off to long. Mine been bothering me and with all the heavy lifting I do at work it was a no brainer to get fixed.