<lmao> <laughs> <laughs> <lmao> phew, that's funny. now, i realize we can get heavy, and think that it's reasonable especially when compared to other battle rifles and such, but you can get too heavy to carry around. my larue as it sits in my safe is about 14.5- 15#'s give or take, and i would want to carry that battle style for long. my pws is just a tick under 11#'s with a loaded mag, and seems much lighter but not a feather. i am satisfied with both for what they are, and you need to be happy with your build and will eventually have to find a happy medium of weight vs money spent, like you said earlier, it will get expensive. btw, this is why i am going to start a hk usc to ump conversion build after the holidays as it was super light and had good accuracy at 50yds, enough so that it will be a go to gun for home defense and ultra short encounters.