suzukiray Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Ok, I searched the site & got nothing. I messaged Dirk & he didn't have an answer either but said Tom will know. What is involved with a "Gun trust", setting one up, what kind of attorney, etc....? I am in Commiefornia so more info from the socialist state people will probably be the most helpful. I have several defense vehicles already & am building more & have figured it will be best if I just go ahead & get this done already. I am open ears guys & thanks to anyone that can help me. Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Try silencerco.com they have a pdf to fill out for the trust for 130$ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 NWgunlaw.com ? Might be Washington only? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Get a gun trust lawyer !!! do not cheap out on this , the gun trust is a very versitile thing it can protect all your class 3 items from estate probate and other snags in the event of your death and it can protect all your other firearms get a gun trust laywer to write one just for your needs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Get a gun trust lawyer !!! do not cheap out on this , the gun trust is a very versitile thing it can protect all your class 3 items from estate probate and other snags in the event of your death and it can protect all your other firearms get a gun trust laywer to write one just for your needs... /\/\/\/\ Strong iron in those words. Don't cheap out on anything legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malig8r Posted August 17, 2015 Report Share Posted August 17, 2015 Get a gun trust lawyer !!! do not cheap out on this , the gun trust is a very versitile thing it can protect all your class 3 items from estate probate and other snags in the event of your death and it can protect all your other firearms get a gun trust laywer to write one just for your needs... /\/\/\/\ Strong iron in those words. Don't cheap out on anything legal. Very solid advice listed above. I would check out www.calguns.net since I bet they could provide some input on attorneys that might be closer to you that specialize in gun trusts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Get with this guy - fire off emails, ask for advice or a direction to go in - ask for a referral to a Cali specialist. https://www.guntrustlawyer.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzukiray Posted August 18, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) Thanks Tom, I knew you would know!! Got money for gas to drive out here Labor Day weekend? On that Saturday a bunch of us are going out to the desert to shoot, off the 15, north of the 10, an area called Hodge Road. Ray. Edited August 18, 2015 by suzukiray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Got the money for gas, brother - but no time off! We're OPEN on Labor Day. What bullschit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suzukiray Posted August 19, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 WTF??!!! Ray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Got the money for gas, brother - but no time off! We're OPEN on Labor Day. What bullschit. Gotta get that Labor Day Sale sale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Looks like 98 needs to go shooting the Sunday before Labor day. We need to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyGoose Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Silencerco's EasyTrust program is rock solid in all 50 states, it has been vetted by the best attorneys in the industry.Yes it is also super reasonable at $129.I highly recommend them, no reason to look further, make it more complicated, or spend a lot of dough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Silencerco's EasyTrust program is rock solid in all 50 states, it has been vetted by the best attorneys in the industry.Yes it is also super reasonable at $129.I highly recommend them, no reason to look further, make it more complicated, or spend a lot of dough.Not in Iowa! No SBR's, No Silencers, No Autos allowed, trust or no trust, I'll kiss you if you prove me wrong! I'm thinking there are issues in other states as well. Edited August 23, 2015 by jtallen83 can't spell! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) There are several issues with that trust form, as mentioned in the link I posted. That was the front-runner news piece in the link I posted. Edited August 23, 2015 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyGoose Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) Well, just to be fair, one must take into consideration it is a lawyer who makes his bones selling expensive gun trusts and probably doesn't like seeing his margins eroded who is making those claims, its not the ATF saying anything which raises my "he's just being a hater" apparatus and makes me somewhat skeptical as to his sincerity or its veracity.Listen, it may very well be so, and perhaps there is room for improvement over there, however, they are certainly doing an adequate job of providing what the law requires, I gather its working very well for a whole lot of PPL, and I am definitely a satisfied customer, so take that for what its worth to you, I can only speak from my own experience, for us it was a fast, easy, and inexpensive process, and has performed flawlessly on three occasions thus far.However I will call them Monday and inquire as to their position with respect to this article, then I will advise herein as to the outcome. ;-) Edited August 23, 2015 by GreyGoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 His trusts aren't that expensive. Also, he groups with lawyers in other states. He doesn't make their money - they do. It's more of a "cooperation" to get the best info out, than a money-making scheme. If you want the best info out there on NFA Trusts - hit his website and check out his blog. All the latest NFA Trust developments are right there, in blog format, newest to oldest. Free information. If you want the cheapest trust you can get, then feel free to do whatever you feel you need to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyGoose Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Fair enough, funny though how he is the only guy on the internet calling Silencerco out?Anyway, 98Z5V I sent you a PM earlier, lets start a thread elsewhere on the .338 Federal so I can take some advice from you on that front! ;-) Ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Silencerco's EasyTrust program is rock solid in all 50 states, it has been vetted by the best attorneys in the industry.Yes it is also super reasonable at $129.I highly recommend them, no reason to look further, make it more complicated, or spend a lot of dough.Somehow I can't imagine the Rockefellers or Hunts saying "We need a rock solid trust to ensure our fortunes are secure from government seizure for generations to come. Call that lawyer that does trusts for $129!"That fee of $129 is well under half an hour's billable wage for a lawyer here. Pretty sure the best lawyers here didn't vet that and put their blessing on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 And dat's Da Fact Jack! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyGoose Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Somehow I can't imagine the Rockefellers or Hunts saying "We need a rock solid trust to ensure our fortunes are secure from government seizure for generations to come. Call that lawyer that does trusts for $129!"That fee of $129 is well under half an hour's billable wage for a lawyer here. Pretty sure the best lawyers here didn't vet that and put their blessing on it.Noted and agreed, however I am not a Rockefeller, and I suspect most who use Silencerco's EasyTrust product are not either, so our relatively simple gun trust's just do not require the ultra complex legal ease or extensive litigation type language that something like a full fledged Hunt family trust would in comparison.I get your point though, and in many instances I am like minded, but in this case with the benefit of hindsight I simply see Silencerco as making a brilliant, calculated business decision to provide their customers with the necessary framework, in as easy and inexpensive a format as possible to provide access to a broader spectrum of people, not just the Rockefellers, and ensure they have as unimpeded access to purchase and possess their class lll products.One scorned lawyer does not a bad product make.If there were issues with the Silencerco product you would see it popping up all around the internet, and that is not the case, this criticism appears to be isolated to and the direct result of this one guy who represents a bunch of other over privileged attorneys, who like all over privileged attorneys are desperate to keep their exclusive club intact and exorbitant profits rolling in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyGoose Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 These should be available to everyone! It should be cheap, and easy! Check it out: http://silencerco.com/fightthenoise/I am happy with my experience with Silencerco, and delighted with with EasyTrust process, and I am proud to support them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 Seems like people are talking about apples, oranges and grapes.Not in Iowa! No SBR's, No Silencers, No Autos allowed, trust or no trust, I'll kiss you if you prove me wrong! I'm thinking there are issues in other states as well.A trust is not going to make an illegal weapon legal. It only creates an entity and gives you a way for other people to use your SBR's and and suppressors.Somehow I can't imagine the Rockefellers or Hunts saying "We need a rock solid trust to ensure our fortunes are secure from government seizure for generations to come. Call that lawyer that does trusts for $129!"That fee of $129 is well under half an hour's billable wage for a lawyer here. Pretty sure the best lawyers here didn't vet that and put their blessing on it.A trust for an estate is much more complex than a gun trust. Believe me I know, I have both.I got my trust through Texas Law Shield but I would think that the $129 version will work too. Contact them, Their's might have been written by a lawyer too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 A trust for an estate is much more complex than a gun trust. Believe me I know, I have both.I got my trust through Texas Law Shield but I would think that the $129 version will work too. Contact them, Their's might have been written by a lawyer too.I can see that. But with rock solid I'd think government is scared to even approach it, due to fear of pissing off their handlers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreyGoose Posted August 23, 2015 Report Share Posted August 23, 2015 (edited) I meant rock solid as in: The program meets or exceeds current federal law, was simple to do, and has proven itself to work as advertised without complication.Yes I was told during the process that the Trust was indeed vetted (using their words not mine) by industry attorneys.Granted the attorneys who did the vetting for Silencerco were likely those whose interests like theirs are vested in making the whole process easier, more inclusive, and cheaper, as opposed to others like the lawyer mentioned above whose vested interest is perhaps in continuing to make the process complicated, exclusionary, and expensive.I like the whole idea of moving this process in a less is more direction! ;-) Edited August 23, 2015 by GreyGoose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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