planeflyer21 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Interestingly timed article, with Barry and the alligator tears yesterday.http://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2015/12/21/book-excerpt-gun-control-in-the-third-reich/?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=insider&utm_campaign=0116Alice Oppenheimer recalled: “At our house [in Frankfurt am Main], the men searched my dad for weapons or something and then took him away. We learned later that all Jewish men between 18 and 60 had been arrested.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'm glad you posted this article from the latest NRA magazine , I couldn't figure out how to get that to post in another thread . it shows how gun confiscation can happen over night with the right forces doing it . Most will say it can't happen here & now , I disagree , there are forces out there already planning or plans already ,to do this & Berry's command performance yesterday is showing the way they will chip away to get it done . So , just how many gun's does it take to sell to make you a gun dealer ? I know we already have a description of how the law reads in BATF regulations , but how is it changed now . If I sell one of my guns a year , does that make me a dealer ? Two ? I see a lot of abuse with this Unconstitutional usurping of power by the POSOTUS ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I'm glad you posted this article from the latest NRA magazine , I couldn't figure out how to get that to post in another thread . it shows how gun confiscation can happen over night with the right forces doing it . Most will say it can't happen here & now , I disagree , there are forces out there already planning or plans already ,to do this & Berry's command performance yesterday is showing the way they will chip away to get it done . It will have to start in major cities, where the concentration of "government authority" exists. Once they start, the cat will be out of the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 It will have to start in major cities, where the concentration of "government authority" exists. Once they start, the cat will be out of the bag. Maybe , unless they have trumped up charges , like they were dealing firearms with out a license ! It will go over just like any mass LE drug arrest , where they have multiple states involved & the Libtard Media will act like they all had it coming . They keep chipping away & narrowing our ability to own a firearm , that's their goal , so rounding up those big bad non licensed gun dealers , will probably unnoticed by most , except those who are well informed , like us . Not to mention those on SS who don't take care of their own finances or ex-military who suffer from ptsd , will be purged right away . This is an attack on our Constitutional rights by a usurper of power against our Country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Maybe , unless they have trumped up charges , like they were dealing firearms with out a license ! It will go over just like any mass LE drug arrest , where they have multiple states involved & the Libtard Media will act like they all had it coming . They keep chipping away & narrowing our ability to own a firearm , that's their goal , so rounding up those big bad non licensed gun dealers , will probably unnoticed by most , except those who are well informed , like us . Not to mention those on SS who don't take care of their own finances or ex-military who suffer from ptsd , will be purged right away . This is an attack on our Constitutional rights by a usurper of power against our Country. I'm talking about it going down just like in post-WWI Germany (at the time, about the size of Kentucky): one night/day, go out and get 'em. I say it is logistically impossible to go door to door siezing firearms. It may be possible to start in a large city with high concentrations of registration, i.e. NYC, but they'll never make it to upstate NY without losing lots of people. Good luck someplace like Phoenix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) I agree with Jon, the logistics just aren't there to be able to pull off a massive gun confiscation in this country. Use the military? Even if the government tried to circumvent the Posse Comitatus I think a lot the rank and file grunts would refuse. I know for a fact that a LOT of Marines would! Policeone.com did a survey and found that over 80% of law enforcement supported gun ownership, the 2nd. Amendment and concealed carry and that tells me that a large portion of the law enforcement community would not support it either. The biggest majority of anti gun responders to that survey were administration and you can bet the farm that those bozos have no intention of going out and kicking down any doors themselves! Edited January 6, 2016 by 392heminut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) They would have to shut down the Internet block cell service and other forms of communication. That's the advantage we have over Nazi Germany, technology Edited January 6, 2016 by shepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Don't forget Morse code via smoke signals..... :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Don't forget Morse code via smoke signals..... :)Nazi Germany had that Magwa ;)like if that shit went down say LA you know Robo is or dnp is gonna get on here or on their phone and text HEY shits going on In LA watch your six and they aren't going to be the only people. That shits going to spread like wild fire via social Media and text!! I'm not saying it can't be done in not saying they won't try it, but it ain't just telegraph lines and smoke signals no more. What are they gonna do paratroop from the sky like in red dawn? Better bring in the UN then cuz our soldiers won't stand for that......... bottom line fuck em in the neck......WOLVERINES!!!!!! Edited January 6, 2016 by shepp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 Interesting. Everyone so far seems to have missed maybe the most important phrase in POSOTUS's speech. He said that we recognize we may need to limit our freedom in order for innocent people to be safe. Extremely dangerous. I believe it was Ben Franklin who said "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
392heminut Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I am with you Shepp, Wolverines! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted January 6, 2016 Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 (edited) Dammit.........I feel another OP coming on soon for the AR308 teams................. Edited January 6, 2016 by Rsquared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 6, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2016 I agree with Jon, the logistics just aren't there to be able to pull off a massive gun confiscation in this country. Use the military? Even if the government tried to circumvent the Posse Comitatus I think a lot the rank and file grunts would refuse. I know for a fact that a LOT of Marines would! Policeone.com did a survey and found that over 80% of law enforcement supported gun ownership, the 2nd. Amendment and concealed carry and that tells me that a large portion of the law enforcement community would not support it either. The biggest majority of anti gun responders to that survey were administration and you can bet the farm that those bozos have no intention of going out and kicking down any doors themselves!So what does that limit them to doing?Making "control zones" ala Baghdad Green Zone. Government will operate within zones where they have near total control: government centers, military bases, vital industrial districts. You will need a proper pass to access, with certain level passes giving all access, others restricted to one or two areas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 I think massive confiscation is not impossible, but highly unlikely. What is likely are moves like we saw in Seattle, enacting a tax on each gun sale, and on each round of ammo. And the latter will be enacted on bullets, primers, powder, gun parts, etc. And don't underestimate the effect of massive amounts of misinformation. The anti-gunners are terribly ignorant of basic gun technology, as simple as the difference between automatic and semi-automatic weapons, rates of fire, and the actual facts behind the statistics they are fed by an uninformed, sensation-seeking, left-wing lacky media.I predict taxation, incremental regulation growth, and an insidious campaign of misinformation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Hope these folks stay true https://www.oathkeepers.org/ Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 While I also agree its highly unlikely there will be a mass confiscation , but when the right Commie is the POTUS ( as is now ) they can , by EO , ban firearms by the end around our Second Amendment . We really don't know yet, what the wording or description of the new ( unconstitutional ) laws from Buttheads EO 's. I noticed he also pointed out that " His Attorney General . " , not "The AG of the US ", but "his "AG , will put this together . He is as close to being a Dictator as we have ever had in this Country. One other thing you have to take into account is , I'm sure in none of these History events , did these people think the it would happen. As far as how the word would get out , all the Commie's would have to do is , cite National Security issue & all Phones & internet could be shut down . Yes ,they can shut down all phone traffic except for the "911" use. Don't rule out the use of outside forces to be used as peace keepers & security for such an endeavor & I'm not talking about NATO , they will be Americans , specially trained for just this type of operation . Just how many people do you think will resist if the right circumstances are brought to bare . Think about that ? I know I will not give up anything as long as I still breath , but so many things to think about when you have a Family & a Job , sure some will say it would not matter , but be honest with your self & what your family means to you & your job , especially if you are in LE . Its all good to say you will do this or that on the internet , but when its staring you in the face & its real , I think its a life changing decision on what you will choose to do & there will no turning back . Any resistance & you will be labeled as a Terrorist & will be dealt with accordingly , whole groups will be designated as such . Just look at the situation in Oregon , do you see a head line the doesn't read " Armed Militia takes over Gov. building " , Its already set up to come out bad for the people that are there . The press will say , those armed people deserved what they got , how dare they take over a Gov. building , Terrorists ! Even though the people burning & Pillaging the town on the news were using firearms to shoot the locks off doors or shooting out windows to break in to steal , no where did any head line say they " Armed rioter's take over town & burn it down & loot it ". Propaganda from the Commie left is winning the disinformation war , because right now they have the "mouth in charge "in the White house . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted January 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Don't rule out the use of outside forces to be used as peace keepers & security for such an endeavor & I'm not talking about NATO , they will be Americans , specially trained for just this type of operation .Yeah they will be! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slugger43 Posted January 7, 2016 Report Share Posted January 7, 2016 Its all good to say you will do this or that on the internet , but when its staring you in the face & its real , I think its a life changing decision on what you will choose to do & there will no turning back . Even though the people burning & Pillaging the town on the news were using firearms to shoot the locks off doors or shooting out windows to break in to steal , no where did any head line say they " Armed rioter's take over town & burn it down & loot it ". Propaganda from the Commie left is winning the disinformation war , because right now they have the "mouth in charge "in the White house . Good points. I can only hope that my efforts/reactions/resistance are appropriate to the circumstances, and uncompromising. I will not go quietly into the dark.The looters were in many cases hardly condemned, and certainly not stopped. I guess that was because they were (a) not "gun nuts" like us, and (b) the politically correct color. (Oh, schitt, did I write that out loud?)Dead on correct about the bad guys winning the disinformation campaign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted January 10, 2016 Report Share Posted January 10, 2016 (edited) Only gun Barry will let you keep if he has his way. Edited January 10, 2016 by MikedaddyH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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