Eastcoastlaxin Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) I have been reloading for a few years now, mostly pistols, but I am now doing .308 and .223 for my rifles. Bought some Hornady 160gr. For $29/100 and they work great. I have been buying from Xtreme bullets for all my pistol bullets and have been happy with their product. Long story short... I ordered some .308 160 gr. Bullets with a roundish flat head. After I loaded a dummy round (no powder or primer) I noticed they are considerably shorter than the pointed Hornady bullets. I can't seem to find any data to help me find out what comparable load I could use. I have attatched a pic of the Hornandy in my caliper and one of the xtreme bullet as well. Any experience with these bullets? I don't want to over pressure them by placing them too deep nor do I want them just in the casing. Didn't even consider these bullets might not be acceptable on the AR platform. Any and all help is greatly appreciated. Edited February 17, 2016 by Eastcoastlaxin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastlaxin Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Sorry.. The bullets from xtreme are 150gr. Flat tip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 (edited) Do you have an overall length gage like this : http://www.midwayusa.com/product/479963/hornady-lock-n-load-overall-length-gage-automatic-lever-actionThat is the best way to check cartridge oal.Start .050" shorter than you measure. Edited February 17, 2016 by NTXshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 What powder are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted February 17, 2016 Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 Shoot those up and DONT buy any more like that ! Stick with 147 gr, 150 gr, 155gr, 165 gr,168gr, 175 gr and 180gr projectiles which are ballistic tipped, FMJ ,HPBT or plain Jane pointed tip. Flat and rounded bullets don't chamber well in AR's. Also Always go by BOOK numbers and use more than one BOOK ! If the two books are not close get a third book. NO EXCEPTIONS ! There are some manuals in the reloading sections. If you can't find something ... ÀSK ! I have access to about 9 loading manuals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastlaxin Posted February 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 17, 2016 I'm using BLC2 powder sketch...Mike.. Do you think there will be any chambering issues? I only got these to plink in the back yard but I definitely will not be buying again..not a reflection of the product, just a lack of foresight on my part... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I shot some 170gr flat points and they fed OK but, the projectiles had scars and nicks on them from the feed ramps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malig8r Posted February 18, 2016 Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 I believe the flat points are made primarily for 30-30 rifles. I know the average 30-30 bullet weights fall between 150 & 170 grains.You could probably shoot them, but as described above; they may not feed very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastcoastlaxin Posted February 18, 2016 Author Report Share Posted February 18, 2016 Agreed, they are for a 30-30 application... Didn't realize the difference in OAL when I ordered them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted February 20, 2016 Report Share Posted February 20, 2016 From my understanding, round nose cartridges just don't cycle in any AR type rifles. I had planned on pulling the projectiles out of some old mil surp .30 Carbine for my .300Blk. The feed ramps need those pointy cartridges. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HankBoman Posted June 18, 2017 Report Share Posted June 18, 2017 The photo showing the other 160gr appears to be a 160gr FTX bullet from Hornady. Those are also meant to be used for 30-30 in tubular magazines, hence the flexible rubber tip. I don't suppose there is any harm in using it in a .308 Win, but if you are seating them all the way down to where the cannelure is in .308 cases, you're taking up case space that could be occupied by powder and you could be unknowingly compressing the load. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 CHeck the post dates, brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreQRiDeR Posted June 24, 2017 Report Share Posted June 24, 2017 Yeah, thats the one thing that bugs me about X-treme bullets, they don't publish ANY loading data for their projectiles! It just seems lazy to me and not being willing to stand by their products. I contacted them to get some load info for their 124r 9mm HP's and they told me to use Speers data. I wrote back and told them I'd be using Speers bullets as well, from now on! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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