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Bear Creek Arsenal (now that this is personal)

beachmaster

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sketch

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had one crap upper from them and stopped shopping their stuff. Seems anyone can make parts and asemble them but who checks the checkers.. 

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From the article:

According to the company of 250 employees, they complied with all laws, rules, and regulations when hiring all their employees. They said that DHS confirmed that they did not break any employment laws.

It sounds like the workers were using false info to get hired, ie. identity theft.  It is kind of hard to verify employment eligibility that way.

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1 minute ago, sketch said:

had one crap upper from them and stopped shopping their stuff. Seems anyone can make parts and asemble them but who checks the checkers.. 

I have a barrel and a complete upper from them and have had good luck so far.

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It seems that their quality and qc has mixed reviews.

I bought an armalite armorers book from a gentleman here on the forum, and i intent to run this rifle at tactical response, to check all of the build quality, and to learn a thing or two about the finer touches of ar armoring. Lol

 

I hope its not a total waste!

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The barrel I bought was a 16" 223 Wylde for a lightweight build for my wife.  She was a hitting man-sized target at 600 yd last fall.  I have not needed it but I have heard their customer service is very good.

sketch Mentor

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56 minutes ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

I have a barrel and a complete upper from them and have had good luck so far.

i think my 16" 300 blk is a bca and is lights out.. my 8.5: barrel faild when taking off the muzzel device and spun the barrel nut by hand. It's a toss up but qc starts at the top. 

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my bad !! my 8.5 barrel was a radical barrel new one is a bca. to many to keep track of some times??
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The products are hit or miss - or should I say the barrels and their accuracy are hit or miss.  I have an accurate stainless steel 6.5 Grendel barrel that's 16" and carbine gas, in the M4 profile.  It works well.  We have another member with the exact same barrel, and the accuracy out of that barrel sucks.  BCA has a lifetime guarantee on their barrels, and accuracy with match ammo, and that guarantee can be utilized.  They'll honor it.  They'll send you a new barrel - just send them the proof (which is kinda hard to do, but possible). Don't let THEM tell you the accuracy of the barrel. 

I talked to them at SHOT last year - the owner.  He stands behind his lifetime guarantee. I specifically asked him how they can make the barrels that they do, for the prices that they sell for (not MSRP prices).  His answer was simple.  For decades, they were in the OEM auto parts manufacturing game - they made OEM-compatible auto replacement parts.  They own all their own equipment (it's not leased, rented, or being payed for). They own all the equipment, and all their building, land, etc.  They don't make payments on those things.  They realized how much specialized equipment that they had, and decided to use that equipment in another direction - support the firearms industry.  Yeah, they needed a few more machines, here or there - so they just outright bought them...

That's how they can do what they do, for the prices that they do it.  If your barrel accuracy sucks - contact them about it.  If you need proof, and you have an inaccurate Grendel barrel - send it to me.  I'll give you the accuracy proof that you need to show that the barrel isn't accurate.  I have five different flavors of these things that DO shoot, with the exact same load.  The one BCA that I have holds it's own with the other (2) BA Premium barrels and (2) Faxon Match barrels.

BCA ain't bad - but if you have a bad one, just exercise their guarantee...   :thumbup:

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They back their stuff. Got a 300 NO barrel with muzzle threads that were not concentric to the bore, suppressor wouldn’t line up. They had a new one in my hands in under a week that passed the gauge test with flying colors. 

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1 hour ago, 98Z5V said:

The products are hit or miss - or should I say the barrels and their accuracy are hit or miss.  I have an accurate stainless steel 6.5 Grendel barrel that's 16" and carbine gas, in the M4 profile.  It works well.  We have another member with the exact same barrel, and the accuracy out of that barrel sucks.  BCA has a lifetime guarantee on their barrels, and accuracy with match ammo, and that guarantee can be utilized.  They'll honor it.  They'll send you a new barrel - just send them the proof (which is kinda hard to do, but possible). Don't let THEM tell you the accuracy of the barrel. 

I talked to them at SHOT last year - the owner.  He stands behind his lifetime guarantee. I specifically asked him how they can make the barrels that they do, for the prices that they sell for (not MSRP prices).  His answer was simple.  For decades, they were in the OEM auto parts manufacturing game - they made OEM-compatible auto replacement parts.  They own all their own equipment (it's not leased, rented, or being payed for). They own all the equipment, and all their building, land, etc.  They don't make payments on those things.  They realized how much specialized equipment that they had, and decided to use that equipment in another direction - support the firearms industry.  Yeah, they needed a few more machines, here or there - so they just outright bought them...

That's how they can do what they do, for the prices that they do it.  If your barrel accuracy sucks - contact them about it.  If you need proof, and you have an inaccurate Grendel barrel - send it to me.  I'll give you the accuracy proof that you need to show that the barrel isn't accurate.  I have five different flavors of these things that DO shoot, with the exact same load.  The one BCA that I have holds it's own with the other (2) BA Premium barrels and (2) Faxon Match barrels.

BCA ain't bad - but if you have a bad one, just exercise their guarantee...   :thumbup:

I know a guy who runs a machine shop about 5 miles from here. Drive onto his place you see a dairy barn, old school tall barn designed for loose hay not baled hay. The barn is full of production lathes and mills. Some of his work was repeat jobs for decades, one job he ran once a year, kept the screw machine in another building until the month he needed it for that annual run of parts, then moved it in and out with a forklift, til next year.

 

Anyway over a 6 month period 90% of his repeat for decades automotive work just vanished, went to Mexico then to China. That was 2006, 2008 he started doing gun parts, Sherluk was an early customer...his gun knowledge and devotion was and probably still is a 10-22 his wife bought him from Walmart.

 

Bill

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willbird

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6 hours ago, beachmaster said:

Holy crap... no wonder the issues i see at psa exist. WOW!

Well here is something for perspective. I found this review about my employer online.

Overall a good place to work. It's easy to slide by and do minimal work. Somebody else will cover the slack. Too many chiefs and not enough little indians is a phrase I'd use. Lots of management layers but "everybody has a home at xxx-xxx"

Now this person totally outed themselves, there is only ONE person who does that job. Consistently he plans jobs and does not order all of the parts needed, and or orders the incorrect parts. He acts out and threatens to murder his fellow employees fairly often and even specifies the tool he will use to murder them (we talk about those tools here), he has smashed the HELL out of his desk while having temper tantrums, it is falling apart from damage. 

There are over 1,000 hourly employees who park in the same lot that I do every day, their experience is varied, they have made decisions that have an impact on their experience too. Myself I have been just an "associate" for 1 week out of my 9+ years, all of the rest has been positions with increasing responsibility and commensurate compensation for that. But people who trained me on my first day are STILL in that spot and bitching about how they are treated there and what they get paid to do that work. They had 9 years in on my first day, they have 18 now, and they still end up where the wind blows them as opposed to creating their own future :-).

I lol about "hot" too, I'd like to take those folks on an 8 hour tour of a REALLY hot area where I work ;-). "Hot" is when you pour gallons  of fluid in during 8 hours and never take a leak once.

Bill 

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98Z5V

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12 hours ago, willbird said:

 "Hot" is when you pour gallons  of fluid in during 8 hours and never take a leak once.

That's called "battling dehydration," right there, brother...   :laffs:

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10 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

That's called "battling dehydration," right there, brother...   :laffs:

Yea it sucks :-). Sometimes we are in hot areas and it ends up "15 minutes more and I do not have to come back up here". But that job the whole work area was hot. They have focused a LOT more since then on providing hydration and electrolytes. 

 

Bill

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