2-Mile target, Sunday morning

[98Z5V]

1 hour ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

Tom unless they will not be there in the Fall, make them wait for the reward.

Indeed, brother.   

Holy Shiit!  

[98Z5V]

1 hour ago, Cunuckgaucho said:

For a proof of concept and initial trial I'd say younguys were succesful.

Now this will not work in the desert but for around the house, moving to the trailer/truck etc

Heavy duty panel dolly, having one has made my life easier

That's pretty damn smart.  

[sketch]

Good shits brother!

[Lane]

You did try. I was so very much curious. 

[98Z5V]

9 hours ago, Lane said:

You did try. I was so very much curious. 

Oh, we'll get it, brother!  This was the trial run just to see how much we have yet to do.  It's attainable,  for certain - someone is gonna smack this thing!  

[Cunuckgaucho]

23 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

That's pretty damn smart.  

Laziness has a certain type of motivation 

[98Z5V]

For the most part, what we've seen so far...  So, round count is low, shooting 2 miles.  Doesn't need to be a high round count to see what we've already seen, especially with years of experience at shooting 1 mile.  I'm not kidding when I say you can fire a sighter shot at 500 yards, check current environmental dope at 1000 yards, and make a confirmation set of shots at a mile.  This is different...  

I've been on the mile on the third round before - and on the second round before, and run 7 out of 10.  I've cold bored it (luck, I'll take that).  This is a different game.

We're not shooting due West, like the Mile shot here at SDTF.  This isn't the Patriot Mile at Parabellum, which is shot due East.    We're shooting west-south-west.  Corialis takes effect shooting north and south (in opposite ways).  That target will rotate out from under your shot, to the left, when shooting south (from the Northern Hemisphere). Add that correction in. Right-hand barrel twist built into your barrel - better factor that shiit in...  When we typically have a wind from the right out here at SDTF at 4~6mph, that's enough to cancel out the right-hand twist of any barrel that you're shooting at a mile.  Not so, now...   Factor it in...  Wind.  Big deal for a Mile - HUGE deal at 2 miles.  Visibility.  Humidity.  Mirage.  Giant factors.  We saw that all.  

This one is a Game Changer, fellas.  Big Time. 

My bottom line assessment is simple.  Anyone can buy an Ivey Mount, and make a heavy-for-caliber round dial to the diatance.  Hell, you can dial in 60 Mils or 200 MOA, depending on which version you buy from Ivey.  You can coax the load out there - that doesn't mean you'll impart energy on target, or impart enough energy into the dirt surrounding the target - to create enough splash to spot your shot.  My assessment will stand - if it's not a 300 grain projectile, it's not heavy enough to blow up the dirt or rocks out here to be able to spot splash, and give you a call or spot on your shot.  That rules the .30 Cals right out, with their max being the 250gr A-Tip projectile.  The 225gr .30 Cal projectile was only spotted once.  And that was luck, .300 PRC cartridge.  Anything less is a stab in the dark, literally.  .338 Lapua is gonna be the minimum gun to bring to this challenge, or fight, depending on how you look at it.  Better be running the 300 grain projectiles, too, not the 285s, the factory stuff from Hornady. This isn't gonna be an easy battle.

There's a reason that the .338 Lapua is the SMALLEST cartridge that ever shows up at the annual King Of 2 Mile Competition...  .375 CheyTac, .408 CheyTac, .416 Barrett...  Wildcats that are giant  - those are the prevalent cartridges at KO2M...  Minimum projectile weight on those .375s is 400 grains...  It only goes up from there...  I found a 550gr .416 projectile tonight that has a 1.300 G1 ballistic coefficient...   Think about that...  

We'll mitigate what we can, make every advantage possible, just to get somebody in this crowd to set off one of those target flashers.  Of 8 flashers we're gonna run on target. Telling you now, though - I'm not gonna waste a bunch of time trying to teach someone how to do this, coach someone how to adjust a scope for this...  Come out here ready to go, knowing your own gun and load...   If you can't DIAL 70+ Mils or 240+ MOA into your scope, then you don't even have a chance at trying it, not at all (70 Mils x 3.4377 = 240.639 MOA - I didn't guess that number arbitrarily, and my start on Sunday was 71.8 Mils...).  With all the setup, math involved, planning, and selection of the custom rail for my action, I can dial 103.1 Mils, total, from a 100 yard zero that I can only get to 1.3" high at 100 yards, with the turret bottomed all the way out.  This won't be an easy task, I'm not trying to discourage anybody - but it's certainly gonna be a TASK...  This won't come easy, like the Mile did.  Or the 2500, 2700, 2900...  We might go through the Fall, and a few people come close - and NOBODY hits this thing...   Brace for Impact.  That's a possibility.  I came in 1 Mil low, good windage, straight below the target, on Sunday, in a steady 8mph left wind.  I'm gonna hit the fuckin' thing... 

1 Mil, at 3,520 yards is 126.72 inches...     My best shot was over 10 1/2 feet low - and I can dial for that. 

If you want training, that takes place on the Mile target.  Not this one. Not at 2.

This is different shiit, completely, now...   

Edited Tuesday at 06:37 AM by 98Z5V

[Magwa]

I am using a buddy,s bullet pointer,i am gonna moly these 300 otm,s and i am going to hit that mo fo going to get a mirage blocker for the heat that comes off the barrel i am going to practice fundamentals all summer and give my self the best chance i can to get one of those bigpills down and on it. I am calling a war council! 

[Matt.Cross]

What was the number for the bullet apex elevation from Line of Sight again? Hundreds of feet, but I don't remember the number.....

[98Z5V]

1 hour ago, Matt.Cross said:

What was the number for the bullet apex elevation from Line of Sight again? Hundreds of feet, but I don't remember the number.....

Range Of Maximum Height:  176 yards.

528 feet, brother...   

[Armed Eye Doc]

3 minutes ago, 98Z5V said:

Range Of Maximum Height:  176 yards.

528 feet, brother...   

Lobbing very small mortars...much better than I can, I'll add.

Edited yesterday at 01:57 AM by Armed Eye Doc

[Cunuckgaucho]

2 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

Range Of Maximum Height:  176 yards.

528 feet, brother...   

 

2 hours ago, Armed Eye Doc said:

Lobbing very small mortars...much better than I can, I'll add.

So my take way from this is, using a forward observer instead of a spotter,we could actually hit targets the shooter can't see on the other side of small hills.  

[98Z5V]

1 hour ago, Cunuckgaucho said:

So my take way from this is, using a forward observer instead of a spotter,we could actually hit targets the shooter can't see

There's a vid out here where they did that, when they were shooting 4 miles...  

[Matt.Cross]

On 5/27/2026 at 12:52 AM, Cunuckgaucho said:

 

So my take way from this is, using a forward observer instead of a spotter,we could actually hit targets the shooter can't see on the other side of small hills.  

Yes, but you still need a visual aiming reference in order to get the gun oriented correctly to the target.