"Can" opinions? The wait begins...

[85 Jimmy]

I'm starting to save my pennies to purchase a can and would like to know what everyones, what is the best can that can be shot on .308 and .223? I'm leaning towards the AAC 762-SDN-6.

After I decide on what can to get and have enough saved I'll just have to find a good dealer. The local "gun shop"/pawn shop is a joke, full of a bunch of a$$ clowns. Then the wait will start.

[85 Jimmy]

Also after I do get a suppressor what do I do if I have to move somewhere like California? Can I legally bring one into the state (or any other state that doesn't like them) for an extended period of time?

[Robocop1051]

Important part first...

Never ever EVER bring your can to California. For that matter, you should always check state/municipal laws before transporting through the area. In California, mere possession, registered or not, is illegal. Sorry. :'(

Now back to "cans"! I am a huge supporter of "stick to the guys who focus on this biz". Surefire and AAC are the first names on that list. I like that AAC  762-SDN-6, but if the money is available they make MUCH lighter versions. take a look at the 300-TM (direct thread) and the MK13-SD too. With the 726-SDN-6 and MK13-SD you need an AAC muzzle device first... Surefire's are really nice, albeit expensive. Again you need their muzzle device.

[85 Jimmy]

Important part first...

Never ever EVER bring your can to California. For that matter, you should always check state/municipal laws before transporting through the area. In California, mere possession, registered or not, is illegal. Sorry. :'(

Now back to "cans"! I am a huge supporter of "stick to the guys who focus on this biz". Surefire and AAC are the first names on that list. I like that AAC  762-SDN-6, but if the money is available they make MUCH lighter versions. take a look at the 300-TM (direct thread) and the MK13-SD too. With the 726-SDN-6 and MK13-SD you need an AAC muzzle device first... Surefire's are really nice, albeit expensive. Again you need their muzzle device.

The only reason I asked about the Cali thing is my wife is active duty airforce and I don't know where I'll end up.

I've been looking at the AAC  muzzle devices, but I'm not sure which one I want to get. I'm not crazy about the design of their brakes so I guess I'd go with the BRAKEOUT™ 51T Compensator

[98Z5V]

I've been looking at the AAC  muzzle devices, but I'm not sure which one I want to get. I'm not crazy about the design of their brakes so I guess I'd go with the BRAKEOUT™ 51T Compensator

Excellent piece of equipment from them - works very, very well.  <thumbsup>

I wrote a little about it in this thread:

http://308ar.com/forum/battle-arms-development/battle-arms-develpment-bad-dbm/

UPDATE - I could have sworn I updated that thread on the Rem 700.  I put the 51t Brakeout on that rifle.  I'll get it updated soon...  :-[ 

[capt greg]

anyone know anything about these guys??

http://thunderbeastarms.com/

[SDDuc996]

The great thing about getting the SDN-6, is you can use it on a .300BLK build, or even on your 5.56. It'll still suppress, but won't be as optimal as a dedicated caliber can.

Also, if you are planning on taking your NFA items out of whatever state your living in, whether it's just for a shoot, or you're moving, you need to inform the NFA first via ATF Form 5320.20:

http://www.atf.gov/forms/download/atf-f-5320-20.pdf

[98Z5V]

That ^^^ is a decently complicated process, too. 

If you're a person that moves alot, getting into NFA firearms can be a difficult process, in the long run, for you.  Of all places I love, I lived in WA State for 12 years.  I would love to live there again one day, but with their NFA laws, I won't.  Decisions, for the long run, come with the acquisition of NFA firearms.

[SDDuc996]

Agreed. That's why I won't live in WA, CA, NY, RI, MD, HI, I'm sure I'm missing a few. I had to fill out that form to move my family and 3 stamps to TX so it's no big deal. I'll be filling another one out for a shoot in Mar that I go to while on leave.

That being said, I'd love to settle down in Wyoming. SBR whatever you want without having to file NFA paperwork.

Roger that.

[imschur]

I think WA changed their laws recently.....for the better

[SDDuc996]

Good. I hope more states follow suit.

[98Z5V]

I think WA changed their laws recently.....for the better

Post it, brother -  before, the two big things were "NO SBRs" and "You can legally OWN a can here, but you CAN NEVER shoot it HERE."  Tell me that has changed...  <dontknow>

[98Z5V]

Still think you need to post your info, Drew, but I looked at latest changes for WA - it's not enough to help me move back. 

Latest changes I found was from July of 2011 (I admit I don't keep up, there) - now, not only could you own a suppressor in WA, but as of July, 2011, You can also shoot a supprressor there... 

In a nutshell, that state is so completely ignorant about the very military that's housed within it's own borders, and so completely ignorant, and repugnant, of it's own laws, that I deem it "too stupid to survive" as a state. It will fall on it's own sword, one day, because of the idiots there.  If you've ever driven I-5 from Portland, OR (which is Vancouver, WA), to Seattle...  then you know what I'm talking about.  Based on driving alone, the wet-side of that state needs to disappear, and start from scatch, out of the rubble. From nothing.  <dontknow> <thumbsup>

[imschur]

Honestly I do not know the details other than a good friend who was doing a countdown until the laws changed. I think it was spring 2012.

[85 Jimmy]

Ok, to bring this back to life. Who knows what the current wait time is from start to finish? Next week I'm going to start the process and am just wondering. Also, what's the best way to purchase one? Directly from AAC (if they'll sell it), go through my dealer and get him to buy it, get from another source and have it transferred to my dealer and then transferred to me?

[Matt.Cross]

Ok, to bring this back to life. Who knows what the current wait time is from start to finish? Next week I'm going to start the process and am just wondering. Also, what's the best way to purchase one? Directly from AAC (if they'll sell it), go through my dealer and get him to buy it, get from another source and have it transferred to my dealer and then transferred to me?

Well, I can answer the first question....

Here's the purchase/wait stats:

NFA item: Ops Inc 12th .30 cal, via Trust

Forms Sent: April 25th, 2012

Check cashed: May 2, 2012

Pending: June 4, 2012

Approved: Nov 5th, 2012

Received: November 11, 2012

Examiner:Dana Pickles

~7 months from the Form 4 mailing to the suppressor being in hand.

[imschur]

AAC does not sell direct. In fact at least around here the dealers are finding their distributor less than helpful. If you cant find the can you want locally but find it online it will take a few weeks to a month for the dealer to dealer transfer to take place. Then you will have your 6-10 month wait.

If you have to wait for a dealer to get stock the wait can be months. Took YHM 3 months to get a can to my dealer. Im certain the election has made this worse.

There are many good suppressors manufacturers. If you cant get something good locally Try to find something in stock at places like Rainier Arms or at one of our advertisers tacticalarmz.

[85 Jimmy]

I didn't know that Rainer arms sold suppressors. I'll probably go that route.

Another question, is it best to get a trust wrote up and go that way, or get whoever it is to just sign it (if they will). I don't plan on owning multiple suppressors. The only other class 3 thing I'm thinking about is a SBR.

[imschur]

Im a strong advocate for trusts. They are powerful tools to protect your collection

[Matt.Cross]

Im a strong advocate for trusts. They are powerful tools to protect your collection

Amen to this... A trust is ideal for a whole host of reasons... (Haha, I said "host"..)

No fingerprints, no sign-off, no background check (by local LEAs anyways), and some more that I'm definitely forgetting. The extra expense of having an NFA trust specially made will pay off with every successive NFA purchase you ever make, and it's just a good life decision as well to have a will and trust written up.

In brief, go the trust route, you'll thank yourself later.

[SDDuc996]

One of the biggest reasons I wanted the trust was due too how often I am away from my home and family. Without the trust listing my wife as one of the trustees, if she ended up using one of my SBR's to shoot an intruder, she could face serious criminal penalties.

[unforgiven]

Good point brother about the wife using one of the rifles for selfdefence in case I wasn't home <dontknow> How much does it cost to setup a trust?

[SDDuc996]

I used a local Gun Lawyer in Texas. Sent him my details, he plugged them in and $300 later, Trust. Very helpful for starting my SDN6 paperwork from Afghanistan.

You can also use Quicken Willmaker. Ask somebody with a trust for help with verbage. I know quite a few people who've gone that route as well with no issues receiving their stamps.

[85 Jimmy]

I guess I'll go the trust route. How do I find a gun lawyer? I googled them for mississippi and none are anywhere close to me. I guess it can all be done over the phone and through emails?

Also what is the exact process of getting the can? Buy the can and have it sent to my class 3 dealer (which the dealer I talked to said it could take a couple months), then once he gets it I do my paperwork portion and send in a check to the ATF, then wait the few more months to get approved, then go pick it up? Or is the dealer to dealer transfer much faster than a couple months?

[Rsquared]

Nothing happens fast with any class 3 weapons. And the trust is the best way to go. I did mine all through email and phone conversations.

And, by the way, here in MD we can own any class 3 stuff that we want. I've got cans (rifle and pistol) and SBR's........all you gotta do is pay.......and wait.