gnatshooter Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 Most of this ammunition will not be destined for foreign conflicts. Unless US Federal agencies declare war on each other, this ammo will be used for weapons intended for use against US citizens. This is not a novel concept. In the Civil War (also known as the War Between the States), Washington turned government weapons against the militias of southern states of the US. Government ammunition stockpiling at this massive scale would be prudent in the event that an armed rebellion must be put down by force of arms. It has been said that the government should fear the people. With ammo stockpiling and the increasing militarization of police forces, it seems that the government wants things the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted February 9, 2014 Report Share Posted February 9, 2014 A couple years ago the little town of Storm Lake, Iowa, a town of maybe 10,000 people, received two up-armored Humvee's through a federal grant program. They have virtually no violent crime and never have, the only thing there is a Tyson pork plant. There are some fairly active "gun clubs" ::) , militias are against the Iowa constitution. Makes you wonder what they are thinking............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 my problem with the article is how badly some things are exaggeratedSince 2001, the U.S. Dept. of Education has been building a massive arsenal through purchases orchestrated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.the reality?Overall, the Dept. of Education is estimated to have over 200 handguns and at least 27 shotguns.I'm sorry, that's not a massive arsenal, I bet a couple of the guys on this forum have that much, much less a federal department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted February 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 my problem with the article is how badly some things are exaggerated the reality? I'm sorry, that's not a massive arsenal, I bet a couple of the guys on this forum have that much, much less a federal department. Ya , but , " The Dept. of Education " ? What's with them needing any thing ? What kind of SWAT team do they have ? <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 Ya , but , " The Dept. of Education " ? What's with them needing any thing ? What kind of SWAT team do they have ? <lmao>I dunno, but that's 4 pistols per state, and less than 1 shotgun per state. It isn't too hard to believe that they'd have that many internal enforcement officers to need that many.if it was 4000 pistols and 2000 shotguns, i'd feel differently of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 The Department of Education can't even get the children's lunch program funded correctly. I ain't too worried about their OIG Officers waging a war on my rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Well, we haven't seen what their (USPS) order looks like yet: caliber, type, quantity-they are just taking submissions for possible contract considerations. b.) So far, the history has been that these are orderings destined for Dept. of Homeland Security, spread throughout many different agencies. It's deceiving to say the least. I forget which agency it was, but it was not your typical "defense or LE" agency, and they alone had "ordered" some 800,000 rounds of .40 and approx. 3/4 of it was JHP. JHP is not an approved NATO round to be used anywhere, but only here on U.S./N.A. soil. Can't say this is for training purposes: I have NEVER worked for an agency that practiced with their designated HPs, may be it's different for federal agencies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted February 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 (edited) None of this changes the fact that our Gov. is buying a $hit load of ammo in the last couple of years & thats a fact no matter how you slice it or dice it . And if you believe any thing that comes out of any one in this administration , as soon as they open there mouth , it smells like A$$. Maybe all you LE's are piss poor shots & need the extra practice <laughs> Edited February 11, 2014 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Maybe all you LE's are piss poor shots & need the extra practice <laughs> You know, you're not too awful far off, and maybe they're going to change the practice/qual. policies, not sure. What bothers me; we NEEDed to form a group like the CSPOA (Constitut. Sheriffs Police Offiers Assoc.) to make a statement about LE agencies remaining Oath and Law abiding servants. THAT speaks volumes. Another aspect which irks me is the beginning of changing the perspectives on who is the threat(s) to whom. It's as if We the People have all simply become "natives" who are standing in the way of corporate progress, and we all are suddenly in need of being off the natural resources those corporations are coveting. IE, time to get onto your designated reservations, w/o defensive weapons, because the oil and water tankers need unfettered access. Somebody link up the latest drill reports for Ohio N.G.-holy crap... Think about these latest gun grabbing activities: coastal waters with some of the largest shipping ports in the U.S.. Don't have to use much imagination to see the bigger pictures. Where have the recent shootings been, mostly? W/E coasts... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 I feel their is alot of probing going on by the no good nicks.Now is not the time to disarm law abiding citizens.Clicked the link on the bottom,the growing problem is presciption drugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted February 11, 2014 Report Share Posted February 11, 2014 Both energy and prescription drugs are the bailiwick of corporate America. Believe me, any loss of our rights will be at the behest of corporate America, because it will be good for their business. Don't be duped as to the real enemy of our freedoms is. Obama is not that smart, or that organized. Whether Democratic or Republican, efforts to restrict our economic and individual rights are being pushed by the people who own them. They are the true enemy of our freedoms. Obama and Boehner, Cruz and Feinstein are the symptoms of the disease, not the disease itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^^^^ I would cuncur with that assesment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Not to change the thread, but the so called Trans Pacific Partnership is one of the biggest threats to our personal rights. It puts international corporate rights above national lrights. That is one reason the negotiations are secret. I will get off my soap box now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Call me crazy, but I think Obama has saved our asses gun wise. Just think if a republican president was in charge after Newtown. ALL politicians are self serving scum. No exceptions. Any apparent exception is just a well crafted ruse. A republican potus would have caved to the emotional bs just as quick and proposed some feelgood common sense restriction crap. With party leadership backing the play..it would have sailed right through Congress. This partisan warzone has saved us alot of headache. The best Congress is a divided Congress where nothing gets done. When the politicians start working together, things go downhill fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 When the politicians start working together, things go downhill fast. ^^^^^^Wisdom. Bipartisanship can be costly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Crazy. You. Yeah, I said it. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasyEJL Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 ^^^^^^Wisdom. Bipartisanship can be costly. that's the only reason I liked Clinton. I do prefer the president to be of the other party than what controls congress. Heck if the Republicans take the senate in 14, I may be forced to vote Democrat in 16 ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenmist Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 Both energy and prescription drugs are the bailiwick of corporate America. Believe me, any loss of our rights will be at the behest of corporate America, because it will be good for their business. Don't be duped as to the real enemy of our freedoms is. Obama is not that smart, or that organized. Whether Democratic or Republican, efforts to restrict our economic and individual rights are being pushed by the people who own them. They are the true enemy of our freedoms. Obama and Boehner, Cruz and Feinstein are the symptoms of the disease, not the disease itself. +1 here, and on your mention of the Trans Pacific Partnership agreement. The more divided We the People are, the easier it is for the corporate raiders to get into our pockets in every sick new tactic they have, while filling political campaign coffers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted February 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 All of the them are in this together , the true ruse is the in fighting & phony ,Dem. against the Rep. thing, keeps the populous divided & that is how they want it , divid & concur. The Commie's will have all the votes any way , because how they have played there hand in winning over the hand out game . The new world order is all about control & MONEY. If you want to know the how they won the last elections , just look at your State's , absentee ballet count & compare it with the past elections ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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