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unforgiven

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mineralman55 Newbie

mineralman55

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Whatever useful powder was there didn't last long.

 

In fact, I'm going to take this as an opportunity to rant. Normally I'm patient and will give the benefit of the doubt to the manufacturers when they say the demand is outstripping the supply. But enough is enough! For almost two years now we've put up with very little to no suitable powders for our rifles. Instead, there's tons of crappy, slow burning powder that is only suitable for 50 BMG and an occasional 1lb bottle of something we want. DAMN IT! Hodgdon, Accurate, Winchester, IMR, where the hell is our powder!

 

Rant off.

shibiwan Newbie

shibiwan

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thats pretty cheap.   Best I could fin online is $72 for 500pc

 

They are going at less than $30/500 at Bass Pro, Cabelas, Walmart etc. Supposedly there are some people who wait/camp there and buy them all up and resell for $50/box

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planeflyer21 Newbie

planeflyer21

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Not a myth…same crew of azzwipes are the one hogging up all the .22 ammo.

 

At Sportsman's a couple of weeks back, the crowd crushing the ammo pallet as it came out got out of hand and someone shoved a little girl down.

 

I told the manager if it had happened with me there, there would have been an ass beating, a citizen's arrest for assault.

 

I'm thinking about going in there and taking all their photos, then having friends of mine post those photos at the gunshows with "These are who buys .22 ammo at normal prices and gouges you here at the gunshow."

 

Everyone needs to quit buying from them.

shibiwan Newbie

shibiwan

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Stop shooting 22's - problem solved. :D :D :D

 

If you ever post those photos up, send them over and I'll toss them up on Backpage.

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98Z5V Grand Master

98Z5V

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Whatever useful powder was there didn't last long.

 

In fact, I'm going to take this as an opportunity to rant. Normally I'm patient and will give the benefit of the doubt to the manufacturers when they say the demand is outstripping the supply. But enough is enough! For almost two years now we've put up with very little to no suitable powders for our rifles. Instead, there's tons of crappy, slow burning powder that is only suitable for 50 BMG and an occasional 1lb bottle of something we want. DAMN IT! Hodgdon, Accurate, Winchester, IMR, where the hell is our powder!

 

Rant off.

 

I specifically asked a Hodgdon Rep this question at the SHOT booth of theirs - "VARGET, have you guys stopped making it?  Because it can't be found ANYWHERE..."  He laughed, and said "No, last year, during all this stuff, we made 50,000 pounds of VARGET, and shipped it."

 

Hoarders, brother, hoarders.  The manufacturers haven't slowed down what they're doing.  On the opposite side of that, they've hired more people to run more shifts, and they're making more of it now...

shibiwan Newbie

shibiwan

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I specifically asked a Hodgdon Rep this question at the SHOT booth of theirs - "VARGET, have you guys stopped making it?  Because it can't be found ANYWHERE..."  He laughed, and said "No, last year, during all this stuff, we made 50,000 pounds of VARGET, and shipped it."

 

Hoarders, brother, hoarders.  The manufacturers haven't slowed down what they're doing.  On the opposite side of that, they've hired more people to run more shifts, and they're making more of it now...

 

Didn't you pick up some H110 from one of them? Stop feeding the trolls!!  <laughs>

mineralman55 Newbie

mineralman55

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I specifically asked a Hodgdon Rep this question at the SHOT booth of theirs - "VARGET, have you guys stopped making it?  Because it can't be found ANYWHERE..."  He laughed, and said "No, last year, during all this stuff, we made 50,000 pounds of VARGET, and shipped it."

 

Hoarders, brother, hoarders.  The manufacturers haven't slowed down what they're doing.  On the opposite side of that, they've hired more people to run more shifts, and they're making more of it now...

 

I don't doubt what he told you,  but 50,000 lbs is only 6250 8lb kegs. That would be an average of 125 8lb kegs per state. Frankly, that isn't very much.

 

Yes, I've heard all the plausible explanations of the shortage (hoarders, government buying up ammo supplies, etc.) I've even contacted Western who were very polite and said they were shipping powders every day. I believed it for a while, but there's no excuse for it now. There's been a surplus of many different but unsuitable powders for the last few years. Something is just not adding up. No, I don't wear a tin foil hat and there are no black helicopters circling overhead (they're olive drab), but I'm no longer satisfied with the explanations and excuses we're getting from the manufacturers.

survivalshop Newbie

survivalshop

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I don't doubt what he told you,  but 50,000 lbs is only 6250 8lb kegs. That would be an average of 125 8lb kegs per state. Frankly, that isn't very much.

 

Yes, I've heard all the plausible explanations of the shortage (hoarders, government buying up ammo supplies, etc.) I've even contacted Western who were very polite and said they were shipping powders every day. I believed it for a while, but there's no excuse for it now. There's been a surplus of many different but unsuitable powders for the last few years. Something is just not adding up. No, I don't wear a tin foil hat and there are no black helicopters circling overhead (they're olive drab), but I'm no longer satisfied with the explanations and excuses we're getting from the manufacturers.

When  you read of all the ammo the Fed is purchasing , its no wonder there are component shortages & ammo . Never in my life have they made so many in so short of time . Not to mention for a ten year procurement , no less .

Follow the money trail !

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shibiwan Newbie

shibiwan

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So I stumbled into another LGS today. They had powders.... and at REGULAR prices ($25ish). Talked to the guys there and they said that the hazmat shipping restrictions is causing havoc with the powder deliveries. Hmm.....

98Z5V Grand Master

98Z5V

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I don't doubt what he told you,  but 50,000 lbs is only 6250 8lb kegs. That would be an average of 125 8lb kegs per state. Frankly, that isn't very much.

 

 

That's just the VARGET, brother - look at all the other powders they have to manufacture...

shibiwan Newbie

shibiwan

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That's just the VARGET, brother - look at all the other powders they have to manufacture...

 

Varget isn't manufactured here. It's made in Australia, imported, then packaged here. They should simply import more. That shouldn't be too hard for Hodgon to do, right? :D

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