beachmaster Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 I wanted to give a quick and dirty review on the double tap defense chambered in 45acp. First off, DONT FIRE +P ROUNDS THROUGH IT! You will need stitches... Long story short, I was dared to shoot a double tap defense. I will accept any "I dare you to shoot this" challenge, as long as it is within reason (built by a manufacture) they said "if you only shoot one barrel, your a wussy". Thats not exactly what they said, but you get the idea. I said, im actually interested in this firearm, can I shoot +p safely through it? They (the gun shop owner) said yes. So I pulled my 1911 out, stripped a couple rounds of hornady tap fpd, walked outside, and threw them in. I pulled the trigger (its like an inch long pull), and I couldn't believe how much pain I was in. At first, all I heard was my friend laughing, and i thought "im going to have to shoot the next round with my left hand..." Then I heard what sounded like a leaking faucet, and me and my buddy simultaneously looked down, to see the gun and the floor literally covered in blood. You would think I hit a dang artery! Anyways, my buddy yelled inside for paper towels. It turns out that both barrels fired simultaneously, and ripped through about 2.5" of skin, from the middle/front of my thumb back. Here is the cleanest picture I have. So anyways, your not supposed to shoot Plus p through the firearm, but when I did some research, it turns out this has happened to quite a few other people, even who didn't use Plus p. The worst part of the story is that I had to go to the va hospital... :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 You are going to upgrade the recoil springs in the gun ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachmaster Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 The gun is a derringer, and it isn't mine. I dont know if there are upgraded springs available for it, but I would hope if there were, double tap would make them standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 ouch. was just looking at those online and thought "that looks painful" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 (edited) The gun is a derringer, and it isn't mine. I dont know if there are upgraded springs available for it, but I would hope if there were, double tap would make them standard.OooooH ... I thought it was a 1911 with a 2.5" barrel . The Derringer makes sense. That has no give ! Edited May 17, 2014 by Dane Armory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachmaster Posted May 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Its a derringer with completely square metal edges and no grip panels. I think its like a half an inch thick... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Dang that is so nasty. I see crazy stuff like that being sold at gun shows and wonder if anyone ever shoots them critters. There's even things that pack .45 cal. that are disguised behind a belt buckle. For collecting on gambling debts or executing cheaters, whatever. This is probably the price paid for not having crazy regulations on the gun industry. There would be like inflatable air bags on the butt of every 12-gauge shotgun firing 1-oz. slugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 ouch. was just looking at those online and thought "that looks painful" Holy $$$$hhiiiittt :eek: ,that's gonna leave a mark.I was lookin at gettin one cause it was small.I wonder if 9mm is less painful ??? Ya still got you'r left hand,can you check that out for me/us brother ??? Well you got "Glock leg" ,now we have "Double tap hand" .I see the bubbles comin out of the wound,I'm no doctor but that can't be good :ugone2far: .Heal up quick and let us know how the 9mm works out. :yup: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted May 17, 2014 Report Share Posted May 17, 2014 Sorry to hear that! Yeah, a friend in Missouri said the same thing about firing that stupid Double Tap. I bet Tom couldn't even do it. :banana: Where's the "bwwwwook-bwok bwok" chicken smilie? <laughs> Just kidding! Don't do it Tom! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 (edited) I've shot Derringers in 22short , 22LR , .25auto and .38special. Would not want to shoot a P+ round or a Magnum round ! Edited May 18, 2014 by Dane Armory Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Whoa! One of my regular CCW's is a two shot .357 magnum. I shoot it all the time, just to see reactions. I may be jinxing myself, but I've never hurt myself while shooting that pistol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Even with celebrity endorsement sellout too: http://doubletapdefense.com Just from looking at the design, the traditional derringers are heads and shoulders above this thing. This review has a good photo of the backstrap. Ouch. http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/07/jeremy-s/gun-review-doubletap-tactical-pocket-pistol/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachmaster Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I thought it was interesting to read how much he said the 9mm hurt, and to have standard pressure factory loads bulge primers should be a sign for the manufacture... So 9mm sucks, according to the gun shop owner, 45acp really sucks, and i can tell you, both barrels of +p 45 is brutal lol I believe the design is flawed. I feel sorry for the person who purchases the pistol I shot. After I shot the pistol, the shop owner cleaned the blood off of it, and put it right back under the counter LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I feel sorry for the person who purchases the pistol I shot. After I shot the pistol, the shop owner cleaned the blood off of it, and put it right back under the counter LOL Imagine how many of these are being sold to total novices, "just to have something for protection." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Those vid clips were interesting.Back in the day I remember the cops in the 4th dist. putting rubber bands on the grips of thier revolvers so it would fit the hand better.I wonder if something that simple would take the "sting" out of that pistol.Also of note that the ported barrel with an improper [relatively speaking] hand grip could be an issue.Aside from the lighter weight of new materials,the older designs of this type would be hard to beat.Adding a "Houge" or "Pachmayr" grip would be a huge advantage without alot of additional weight.Just my 2 mags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachmaster Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I think the larger issue at hand is the fact that it malfunctions to fire two barrels instead of one, causing damage. I would consider owning one if that were the case. But since it can randomly decide to dump both barrels and obliterate my hand, I am more interested in a derringer of the Bond arms flavor. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Bond Arms 45LC/.410 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 18, 2014 Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 Bond Arms 45LC/.410 That's a nice looking weapon. http://www.impactguns.com/bond-arms-snakeslayer-45lc-410-bass-855959001161.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachmaster Posted May 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 18, 2014 I like the Bond arms ranger 2, and the defender in 45acp. Someday... someday. :-) Also on the radar is an American derringer in 45/70... but they are just too spendy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 (edited) I think I have a good comparison coming on this one... Looking at their dimensions: DoubleTap™ Specifications*: Caliber: .45 ACP or 9mm (Other calibers coming soon) Weight: 15 oz Titanium (45 Ported empty) 13 oz Aluminum (45 Ported empty) Width: .665 inches Length: 5.5 inches Height: 3.9 inches Barrel: 3.0 inches (Stainless Steel) Frame: Titanium or Aluminum I think you'd be better off with this instead. 5 + 1 loaded. The ability to rapidly reload 7. I'm going with this one: Edited May 21, 2014 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachmaster Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 Man that thing is tiny! I wonder what other super compact 45s are available... I was looking at hyper compact 1911s like the detonics combat master, but that is another good option! I would like to see a size comparo to the tiny ria 1911 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I've been looking pretty hard at one of those lately... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beachmaster Posted May 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 I found that little xds to be very cool, and I tried finding it on their website, but it wasn't listed. All I could find is that they were recalled because they could go full auto lol Did they stop making them? The only three inch models I can find on their website come in 9mm and 40s&w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 They're still making the XDS, in 9mm & .45acp. The recalled guns are being fixed now and current production has been with the modded safety since February or March. For whatever reason, they have a different website for the XDS series: http://xdspistol.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted May 21, 2014 Report Share Posted May 21, 2014 FWIW... FNH has rumored a compact and subcompact in their FNX line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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