NTXshooter Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 I had someone tell me today that the rules for NFA trusts are changing. That as of June 1, you will have to go to your local LEO and get the same signatures as a private transfer. Has anyone else heard this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 24, 2014 Report Share Posted May 24, 2014 This is what I found: http://www.guntrustlawyer.net/proposed-atf-trust-regulation and http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eAgendaViewRule?pubId=201310&RIN=1140-AA43 A discussion of the proposed rule can be found here: http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1523702_NFA_Trust_rule_change.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 (edited) Nope. Nothing happening June 1. Some changes are coming, but I don't think they have a hard and fast date. Keep buying. >:D Edited May 25, 2014 by StainTrain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Thanks, I had not heard anything and I figured that would be big news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Nope. Nothing happening June 1. Some changes are coming, but I don't think they have a hard and fast date. Keep buying. >:D Thanks, I had not heard anything and I figured that would be big news. Looks like NFA regs are set to come into effect "in June". Whatever those might be. There was a proposal by Obama-friendly bureaucrats, and a "public comment period" during which "Right-Wingers Who Clutch Guns And Bibles" can say Things That All Proper Gunless Progressives don't like. After that, there was an amount of time for the bureaucrats to 'show their dedication to democratic principles' by considering and rejecting comments by "Right-Wingers Who Clutch Guns And Bibles" and doing what Obama wants. And we're set to find out what Obama wants on NFA items "in June". First approximation, it looks like some time next month you'll have to find someone in the local police bureaucracy to sign off on the notion that you and your NFA weapon won't be used for criminal activity. Come on, cops suspect everyone. You ain't getting any NFA items if you need a cop you never met before in your life to swear on the honor of his pension that you won't do something illegal with it. Like shooting squirrels for instance. We won't know what the BATFE is gonna do with the NFA trust rules until they are actually published. At this point, everything will be too late. Likely not even the NRA could muster enough political clout to reverse the damage, though they might try. So for now, everyone commenting on this piece of business is actually correct. And we may soon discover how bad the damage is. Maybe. Soon. Possibly, in June. And that rhymes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 From what I've heard. It's back to getting the fingerprint cards and form 4 put through your local CLEO. It's a pain in the ass for me here in Maryland. Because everything has to go through the ONE (main) state police barracks. That's a 45 minute drive (not counting traffic) one way. That was the main reason for forming the trust between my son and I. That and having the capability for either one of us to have possession of an NFA weapon (or device) that the trust owns. Just more horse$hit from the current administration to slow us down. As if the BATFE wait of 6 to 12 months wasn't enough. This $hit gives me an ice cream headache. Where's my beer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted May 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 Sounds like I need to get off my a$$ and pull the trigger on a can and my sbr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 (edited) Sheriff here will not sign NFA transfers any more . Been that way for a couple of years now , wants them to all go to Trust . Edited May 27, 2014 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microgunner Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 Sherif here will not sign NFA transfers any more . Been that way for a couple of years now , wants them to all go to Trust . That's true of all Florida sheriffs I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 having to get fingerprints etc will effectivly distroy a trust and I will bitch and moan to stop that the reason for a trust is not to have some mythical loophole but to have a way that members of your family can use the NFA items without becoming a criminal.... ands to have a way to pass on your gun collections and NFA items ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted May 28, 2014 Report Share Posted May 28, 2014 ^^^^ Couldn't agree more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 What aggravates the hell out of me is having my ability to purchase a silencer rest in the hands of an individual who likely knows little to nothing about the NFA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Paper pushers ! having to get fingerprints etc will effectivly distroy a trust and I will bitch and moan to stop that the reason for a trust is not to have some mythical loophole but to have a way that members of your family can use the NFA items without becoming a criminal.... ands to have a way to pass on your gun collections and NFA items ... In case of the NFA owners death , your NFA item(s) can be transferred to a immediate family member (s) with out charge , just reapplication ( family member ) & finger prints for transfer. Edited May 29, 2014 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Unless said weapons are banned from being transferred in your state. My state, for example, is about to ban the transfer of SBR's (yet another reason I gotta get the hell outta here). So if I clutched my chest and dropped the day after this went into effect, if it wasn't for my trust, where would they end up going? Straight to the crusher. Stupid assed gun laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 Your SBR should be grandfathered in , its already in your name .Not sure how they set up your states laws , though . Could also go to immediate family member in a friendly state . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 (edited) Oh. Not what I meant. I get to keep mine. Just can't transfer any more SBR's after 1 July (I think that's the date). Pretty much the same thing that the state did with AR-15's last year. And I'm not a family type of guy. Don't like a lot of my family. So, they either go to my kids (Son is a trustee, daughter is the beneficiary to either one of us), or to all of you yahoo's around here. <lmao> Edited May 29, 2014 by Rsquared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted May 29, 2014 Report Share Posted May 29, 2014 ... or to all of you yahoo's around here. <lmao> I'm pretty certain that I could assist you in bearing such a heavy burden... <thumbsup> <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Mighty nice of you brother. I knew that somebody would step up to the task. <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnatshooter Posted May 30, 2014 Report Share Posted May 30, 2014 Oh. Not what I meant. I get to keep mine. Just can't transfer any more SBR's after 1 July (I think that's the date). Pretty much the same thing that the state did with AR-15's last year. And I'm not a family type of guy. Don't like a lot of my family. So, they either go to my kids (Son is a trustee, daughter is the beneficiary to either one of us), or to all of you yahoo's around here. <lmao> Huh. And here, I was thinking that problems like this were solved by the firearm(s) becoming involved in a tragic boating incident which made it impossible to find them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 I'm the closest yahoo to ya brother.Just sayin. :yup: Not that I would anything to happen to you. :ugone2far: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted May 31, 2014 Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 (edited) Don't worry my man.....you're definitely on the short list (from the short bus of course). You get to have the first argument with my son (he's 25 now)...........followed by Greg and Rob. Then Tom can storm in and try to intimidate him. BUT...........I leave one two syllable word for that. OOH-RAH!! Edited May 31, 2014 by Rsquared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted May 31, 2014 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2014 Hey, I've got room in my safe for anyone who wants to store something. Of course, I get to shoot anything in my safe. Just got information yesterday, the date for BATFE to make a decision on trusts is now January 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTXshooter Posted June 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted June 23, 2014 We'll, I got the trust done and I pulled the trigger on a suppressor. Bought a YHM Phantom Titanium QD. Now I just have to wait for the ATF. It sucks that they took down the online applications. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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