Put 50 rounds downrange today was the most accurate I could do with gloves on but it was the worst of that granted it was the first time I've ever shot with gloves!! If it was on my hip as intended I might have been warm. My hands were the issue. So I had my friend who shoots once a year shoot a Kimber carry pro and his own glock 27 and he made a center target hole at 7 yds one hole groups as he did withs the xds he's not alowed back but I'm hoping you got what you want cus this is the shyt!!