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No, I totally agree Stain. Part of it was other problems as well - the credit card company holding 2/3 of the funds for months, then the inability to actually get billet material, then literally the head machinist attempted to sabotage production as he planned to basically buy out the shop when it went into bankruptcy court and own it himself. There was tons of nonsense, but I totally agree that funding should have been searched for from investors much earlier. We still have a pile left of the original lowers to finish and ship, almost 2 years later, which is not acceptable (well unless you're rock river arms :D). But we've finally started turning the corner, at least from what I've been told.

I had a Russian friend of mine tell me that it seems like it was a staged deal, somehow they're using those characters to try and boost election turnout? bizarre

hopefully everything else will start getting caught up in the next few weeks. The owner has moved up to Colorado (which is where the production facility is ) and has been beating it into shape so they're finally catching up.

do we need to get the florida contingent to ride up there with you (carrying non-core equipment) ?

once you get it, let me know and i'll come visit to check it out. the price is pretty brutal, but I like the idea of a true pocket 45

damn, that's pretty hot

a light 16 will still do better than a light 20 at 500 years. I saw guys doing videos of it using either a PSL or dragunov, can't remember now. Started with the standard I think its 24 1/2 inch barrel, and ran some rounds (7.62x54r), let it cool, sawed 2" off and shot some more. you could see the group tighten as the barrel shrank, I think their best group for that round with that barrel type was at 18, with 16 being close.

the group size performance. It does degrade faster with the 16", but the difference between the 16-20 isn't significant till past 800, and both still start to suck then. the dropoff is pretty rapid, just a little faster with the 16. Lets put it this way, I put a 20" on mine for the same reason, and i'm perpetually thinking about dumping it for a 16, or even a 14.5 with a pinned muzzle brake. I likely will never shoot past 500, and at that you can't tell the difference, in reality due to barrel whip the 20" could be worse than the 16". But that's a long story. Basically though if you take a heavy barrel 16" that weighs the same as a normal profile 20", the 16" is more accurate for at least that first 500 yards, probably still is close to 700.

are your really long shots going to be past 800 yards? because the difference up to 600-700 yards between a 16 and 20 is negligible, and performance deteriorates rapidly enough past that with either that you'd honestly be better off with a different round than 308 if its important to go that far.

in scenarios like this, what I've found works is to have it shipped to a person in the US, then have them personally reship it to you. It usually saves on postage as well vs what companies charge for international.

good luck!

sooner or later that one will also be up here in the coming list :D

congrats!

well, its no high point, but it looks like it should be ok ;)

since I missed this originally, welcome from Tampa

welcome from FL. is it a brand new rifle?

I wish I would have had the money for it, I keep thinking i'd rather dump my 20" and just have a 16"

welcome from FL.

I've got a Coonan type 3 metric FAL receiver on the way. should make for a nice 308 rifle, even if its no AR :)

I've got a PSL coming, that was my compromise :D

I keep thinking about a mosin, i'm sure by the time I finally am ready to buy one they'll be stupid expensive

welcome from FL

welcome from FL, condolences on the Armalite purchase ;)

that makes sense. Once they get everything caught up I have a few special toys for them to make for me :D

anyone done shorter length barrels? I'm questioning it because sometime in the future i'll end up having a custom one built with an integral suppressor to an overall length of 16-17" but that realistically means around a 9" barrel, maybe shorter