AdamO

Dont have one... wish I did. Shot a buddy's Saiga 12. Nothing like having 6 of your friends oit with you at the top of the ridge to toss skeets all at once and drilling every one! Popoppoppoppoppoppopp. Saiga 12 is a badass IMO!

I'd recommend a 16" if you're going to use it as a hunting rifle as well. I was extremely weight conscious building my rifle and still wound up a little over 8lbs without optics or ammo. Count those ounces so you wont be be crying about the pounds if you plan on packing it long distances. ;)

^^ What he said! ^^

So, I punched my ticket for the SSA-E train a couple of days ago. Should be arriving early next week. Can't wait to see what all the hype is about!

Thanks!! now im sitting in the waiting roomat the dentist over here snickering and trying to hold back my laugh and getting weird looks from the receptionist

No shoot.

Since we've got a large Free State of Arizona population here.... Remember these names: Raul Grijalva Ruben Gallego Kyrsten Sinema These are you representatives who did NOT sign Rep. Goodlatte's letter to the ATF. I'm looking at you Phoenix dewllers - you guys have got some work to do next time these seats are up.

Ya know,...the thing about 2 in 1 gadgets is that in most cases they don't do eithrr one well.. Sticking with my large frame for the .308 and my small frames for the 5.56 stuff. And my 10/22 for the .22lr stuff... ;)

Hahah. My bad... I Necro'd it!! Guess I Ass-u-me'd it was last Dec. Hahahah!!

Way to go man!! Hoping I get drawn this year. Put in for 4 cow and one bull hunt.

This... (coming from another Aero owner)

Two more small frame lowers and a SSA-E

Yes they do don't they. Like a pair of Romanian sisters. I got the blonde and you got the red head!! :p

Welcome from AZ!! The guys here are awesome and will get you squared away. ;) -Adam

mine.

HAHA!! yeah right? Forum formatted those

Then time to get involved wouldn't you say? Even if you think it's throwing pearls to swine. It's better than doing nothing.... Here, you can even use my letter if you don't want to write your own. (I stole some bits and pieces of other peoples letters myself ;) ). <copy here> To Whom It May Concern: I am submitting the following comments in response to the BATFE text titled “ATF FRAMEWORK FOR DETERMINING WHETHER CERTAIN PROJECTILES ARE “PRIMARILY INTENDED FOR SPORTING PURPOSES” I would like to address several issues concerning the repeal of the armor piercing exemption granted to M855/SS109 5.56mm ball ammunition. To begin, ATF FRAMEWORK FOR DETERMINING WHETHER CERTAIN PROJECTILES ARE “PRIMARILY INTENDED FOR SPORTING PURPOSES” and the impending repeal of the M855/SS109 exemption is a gross misinterpretation of 18 USC 921(a)(17) and represents an unconstitutional overreach of BATFE authority to ban such ammunition. As cited in the ATF FRAMEWORK, 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B) provides: (B) The term “armor piercing ammunition” means— (i) a projectile or projectile core which may be used in a handgun and which is constructed entirely (excluding the presence of traces of other substances) from one or a combination of tungsten alloys, steel, iron, brass, bronze, beryllium copper or depleted uranium; or (ii) a full jacketed projectile larger than .22 caliber designed and intended for use in a handgun and whose jacket has a weight of more than 25 percent of the total weight of the projectile. M855/SS109 categorically fails to meet either of these requirements: (a) M855/SS109 ammunition fails to meet criteria set forth under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B)(i) M855/SS109 ammunition construction consists of a copper alloy jacket over a combinational steel and lead core. It is not however constructed entirely of any one alloy or even entirely of a combination of alloys set forth in the plain language of 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B). (b) M855/SS109 ammunition fails to meet criteria set forth under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B)(ii) As evidenced by MIL-C-63989C (AR), the M855/SS109 ammunition was originally designed for use in the M16A2 rifle and M239 machine gun. This fails the requirement of a .22 caliber “designed and intended for use in a handgun”. Furthermore, it cannot be argued that 5.56mm projectiles are larger than .22 caliber if the generally accepted rounding mathematical principals are observed. The metric 5.56mm classification when converted to inches, this is equal to .2189 inches or .22 caliber. Even the .22 Long Rifle which measures .222 inches carries a metric definition of 5.6 x 15mm whereas 5.56 is less than 5.6. Given the width of a human hair is .003-.005” thick, the difference between .219, .22, .222, and even .223 is truly “splitting hairs” thus it must be held that both 5.56mm and its civilian counterpart, .223 Remington ammunition does not exceed the definition of a .22 caliber projectile. Criteria set forth under 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B) is not met. The Second Amendment of the United States Constitution states: A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. As it applies to X855/SS109 ammunition: The New Oxford American Dictionary defines “Arms” as: plural noun 1. Weapons and ammunition; armaments. Secondly, it is found in United States v. Miller, 307 U.S. 174 (1939): The signification attributed to the term Militia appears from the debates in the Convention, the history and legislation of Colonies and States, and the writings of approved commentators. These show plainly enough that the Militia comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. 'A body of citizens enrolled for military discipline.' And further, that ordinarily when called for service these men were expected to appear bearing arms supplied by themselves and of the kind in common use at the time. http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/scripts/getcase.pl?court=US&vol=307&invol=174 The AR-15 clearly fall under the protections of the United States Constitution Second Amendment and us upheld by caselaw in that it is the civilian semi-automatic counterpart of the military M16 and M4 and shares identical receiver, bolt, barrel, chamber, and other components with these military weapons systems. Furthermore, with more than 5 million AR-15 semi-automatic rifles in the hands of private citizens it cannot be argued that the AR-15 weapons system is not“in common use”. M855/SS109 ammunition, being among some of the most common and redily available ammunition for the M16, M4, and civilian AR-15 platforms, and failing to meet the legal criteria of “armor piercing”, set forth by 18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)(B), is afforded the same constitutional protections under the definition of “Arms”. Any attempt or future attempt to categorically ban ammunition for any class of weapon deemed legal to own by the American public goes against the fundamental protections of the United States Constitution and is a direct violation of the Bill of Rights. Please withdraw Denise Brown’s “ATF FRAMEWORK FOR DETERMINING WHETHER CERTAIN PROJECTILES ARE “PRIMARILY INTENDED FOR SPORTING PURPOSES” WITHIN THE MEANING OF 18 U.S.C. 921 (a) (17) ©” and terminate any further efforts to prohibit civilian possession or distribution of M855 projectiles and/or cartridges. Please extend all of these comments to cover any and all cartridges conforming to NATO STANAG 4172, which are functionally and constructively identical to U.S. Army M855 cartridges. V/r, //signed Adam O.

Its been a long time since I believed any elected officials at the national level was really looking out for us. Let's hope Congress doesn't back off with this. The ATF needs to be brought to heel. Beruacrats are not law makers and these chuckleheads can't even follow their own rhetoric. They wax on about "intent" when it comes to the Sig brace and other "guidelines" that they want to flip flop on... What about "intent" of xm855? Was it ever "intended" to be a handgun round? Ever try to conceal carry an AR "handgun"? This ban fails at passing even the lowest common denominator of the common sense test and it has absolutely nothing to do with xm855 or LEOPA. It has everything to do with an elite group of gun grabbing fascist megalomaniacs trying to shove their collective cocks down the throats of the serfdom. If we dont everyone of us fight this here and now to the point where it is stopped then don't bitch about it when m193 is next followed by 6.5, 6.8, 7.62x39, .300blk, .308 (last i checked it was possible - even if impracticle to do a .308 pistol build) 6.5 Creed, etc... Anything you can adapt to fit in an AR 15/10 or AK frame... kiss it goodbye and thats just the beginning.. I know it, you know it, they know it. Keep writing your congressmen, get your comments in To ATF even if you think it wont matter. (I have a very long one that will go out today) They WANT you to feel defeated, they WANT you to be a good little lap dog, they WANT you to sit on the sidelines because you believe it doesnt matter. Well F@CK that! Get involved and take action, not just this time, every time.. BULLSHITS LIKE THIS CANNOT BE ALLOWED TO SAND..EVER! ( Posting rants and diatribes such as this one on Internet forums is NOT taking action BTW)

Thanks man! :)

Something like that.. Now the REAL work begins!!

Almost there

Bridge route done Pickup route in progress.

Beginning to look a little more guitsrish. :)

Well... better late than never.. finally getting around to making some sawdust fly. Had hoped to been done a long time ago but wound up moving and things got really set back.

So this is something new that just started happening. I'm unable to manually lock back my bolt. Gun cycles and shoots like it should. It locks back fine on its own with an empty mag but with the mag removed I can't lock it back manually pressing the bottom of the bolt release. It wasn't like that when I first built it and I've only put about 150rds down the tube. Here's the relevant build info: Aero M5 forged reciever set, Std. Aero M5 LPK, Rainier chrome lined bolt (no FA serrations), Rainier select barrel. I run her pretty much dripping wet. Any ideas why it worked at first and not now? Should I order up an AR-10 bolt catch from Armalite? Thanks fellas, -Adam