I'm with you there, makes wish we could throw them in an alligator pit, or a moat with some hippos! My two are the perfect family pet, great with my daughter and her friends, very protective of her and the wife, intimidating if you don't know them. My puppy is 74 lbs., and she has no idea how scary she is to "oh my God, a pitbull" crowd. But this is the dog that whines if don't let her under the covers to sleep, and let me friends 6 mo. old poke her in the eye for an hour the other day while upside down. SCARY! There is no way I'd willingly let someone take my dogs based upon this nonsense. The young one is black the 9 year old is the rednose.