And a Merry Christmas to you, too, brother Mike! <thumbsup> We need one of these: That's the 2" rail piece, from Apex, that mounts directly to their rail. It'll go on either side, or the bottom, so you can put it anywhere you want, fore, aft, middle, any side, etc. http://www.apexhandguard.com/store.php?seller=ApexMachiningCompany&navt1=19974&navt2=86324&pd=167795#images Once you have that, you have freedom. Now, for mounts, we can go crazy. You can do a traditional sling with swivels, and mount up a pic-adaptor sling swivel stud, or you can start changing things up. Depending on what you need out of a sling, you can switch up to a different sling, with different capabilities, and different mounts. I can get WAY into this, brother. <thumbsup> Here's a pic-mount sling swivel: Here's just the stud: If you change up ends on your sling, here's a QD socket mount: If you want an adaptation of that, here's one at 45 degrees: Let's talk about slings, brother - what are you running, and do you need it to do more?