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That is such a nice upper/lower set - that will end up as a very, very sweet rig. <thumbsup>

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For future note to others: First step in precision measuring is making sure your measurement equipment is right, or calibrated. When something you measure looks wildly out of whack, suspect (and inspect) the measuring equipment first, or you'll chase your tail trying to find the real problem. My $0.02.

I love seeing stuff like this for .22LR - makes some people freak out sometimes, and it's typically the people that discount the round based on it's size... Love it! <thumbsup> ;D

US Cav did it again - look at this:

You did a fine, fine job. Great stuff. <thumbsup>

It's probably something I wish I didn't learn... <lmao> Those roll pins are dangerous items to keep hanging around. I'm just sayin'... :o <laughs>

Welcome to the site, man - I spent a few years on the Central Coast - Monterey in general, but Fort Ord specifically. I loved that place, but if bummed me out to go back and see how it's just fallen apart now. There's nothing that can really compare to that whole area, though. <thumbsup>

Man, you got bit by the bug fast! First, congrats on receiving the parts fast - that's cool. And, welcome aboard! <thumbsup>

I'm betting that they're using that disclaimer on purpose - for ban states. It's not a permanent alteration to the magazine, as you could still remove the baseplate and take the limiter out. Being non-permanent makes it non-compliant. If you rivet that base plate on there after installing the limiters (some companies already do this for ban compliance), you'd probably pass initial scrutiny with local law enforcement. <dontknow> My disclaimer: I'm not advocating that anybody tries this to lower your magazine capacity in order to comply with your ban state's laws and regulations. Do so at your own risk and your own discretion... <dontknow>

I hope you understand that I'm having a very hard time believing that you could resist this piece of .308 artwork - when I know how bad the 5.56 version injured your self-restraint... <lmao> You're being nonchalant about this because you're getting one on T&E, ain't ya?... <lmao>

I concur - it's just an affliction, addiction, malfunction, and quest for perfection... <dontknow> <lmao> Once it's one you, you can't get it off... Shotguns are another weakness of mine... :o I've changed my philisophy on the "bigger safe" thing, though - I somehow warped into "additional safe," because I can't seem to get rid of the old ones. In some way, they're like a great pair of shoes, and you just can't throw them out for a new pair. Stack 'em or Line 'em up! <lmao> <thumbsup>

THAT is what I was waiting for... <thumbsup> Along with your confirmation that you are indeed on the list. <lmao> I know you are, man... <dontknow> <laughs>

I'm confused on the rail length myself - looks like it's between midlength and rifle length. I'll grab a barrel that's pretty close to the end of it as soon as i have that set in my hands. I'm positive (almost said "I'm Sure," but I'm not really him... ;D) that the specs on it will be stated when it's closer to release. I almost bit the bullet on a Mega Mono 5.56 setup, but I've got too many 5.56 guns already - like that's possible, right? <dontknow> Didn't do one, though. This one is getting built, though. SBR style.

Nobody here is getting banned for anything - there's no reason for that. The only things I know about you are what you post, nothing more. I see you searching for ways to build an accurate weapon, and basic "accurate-weapon" answers have been given to you by various members on the board. By asking such questions, what you're looking for in a direct answer is the secrets used by badass weapons manufacturers who have been doing this for years and years. basic analogy in that would be calling LaRue and asking them for the specs on one of their 7.62 OBRs so you can build one yourself - they're not gonna give you that information. It's that simple. Gunsmithing is an art, perfected by years and years of experimentation, testing, modification, then applying those learned lessons right back into the beginning of that circle of gunsmithing. It's not something you can explain to someone in a post - or several - on the internet. True, basic modifications can be explained with a few words and pictures, and that information can be grasped by many - but not all. All I'm saying is "understand the basics" of this particular platform - that's the one you wish to advance, obviously - understand the inner workings of the gun, then modify that based on what works for you... Nobody here can tell you what is going to work for you. I'm not you, and neither is anybody eelse here - we don't know. I have no idea what range you'll want to effectively shoot at, whta ammo you're trying to use, what your intended target is, what your atmospherics are most of the time you shoot. I don't know any of that, and truthfully, it might not make a difference if I did. I'm still not the one shooting your weapon. That's the reason I stressed "learn to shoot." If you know how to shoot, and you don't need any input on that - then you're not looking for any advancement - you've hit your pinnacle, and you won't advance beyond that. Download the Army Markmanship Manual and learn those shooting fundamentals. There's something in there that everyone can learn. Other than that, you're the one that needs to figure out what you need to do to your gun. Trying to gunsmith your own firearm for the first time on a new platform never works out, and it seems like you're trying to apply every trick that you can on your first build - just do the basics. If you can install a barrel, then you can remove it and lap your upper receiver later - after the basics are applied, and if you find that it's necessary to enhance your skills. Once you're capable of outshooting the weapon, THEN you mod the weapon to match your skills. I hope you take this the right way. I hope I've explained it well enough for you to understand my intent.

Based on that - but not being there, during that newscaster/reporters visit with those troops on the ground... The only thing I can come up with it the quest for news. This is the only scenario that would even make sense to me, seeing that: Some news guy over there "wants to go out with the troops and see them hunting for someone." It gets authorized somewhere in the military chain of command, but the order is to DEFINITELY take that news person somewhere "safe." I can tell you for sure that the military doesn't need or want to have some reporter's death on their hands, due to a firefight. So, "Take them somewhere safe, see something, shoot at something, make them happy..." I can definitely see that happening in today's military conflicts over there. Hence the earpro. I can't think of any other logical reason for soldiers in a combat zone, on a patrol with a mission of "looking for someone" to have earplugs in. That's putting stupid one-way flat-range safety rules in place that would actually be "not so safe" considering the mission. Risk assessment would tell me "Hell no, don't wear earpro." Not for a mission like that. Every unit I ever deployed with - didn't have embedded reporters. None attached, non accompanying us into the AO - none anywhere around us, not at all. I liked it that way.

What got me was the way if was produced, by whom, and in what venue. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=121&t=525882&light= So, I guess I've not done any better here by bringing it up. The way it was done isn't right. <dontknow>

Dude, you're asking questions that are all over the place, all over the board. You're looking for accuracy in this thread based on lapping an upper receiver. Other threads you've started are about ear-pro from the military, etc. It seems like you're searching for the perfect answer to everything, from all over the place, and it's all intermingled. The only magic in any of this is perfecting skills as a shooter, then applying those skills to different types of weapons platforms. Time... None of this happens fast, even if you attend a bunch of high-speed shooter courses as a Halo-Scuba-Pathfinder-Special Forces-Ranger-12-sandwich-eating-motherfucker, 10-feet tall, three rows of teeth and two coats of hair, caveman style. Grab a damn generic .22LR rifle, figure out how to shoot that thing into a 2" square at 100 yards, and when you've got that all figured out you'll be able to shoot just about anything well - without a bunch of tricked out gear, pricey ammo, and added expense that you don't need. Go to an Appleseed shoot. Sorry if this sounds harsh, but you're asking things that are all over the damn place, and combined together - none of it makes sense. It all looks like you're trying to find some fast way into becoming a shooting badass... <dontknow>

In case some haven't seen these yet - MagPul has released their own PMAG round limiters for the 5.56 mags. It's only time before they come for the 7.62 mags, for sure. There are 5-rd limiters and 10-rd limiters available now, both of which are for the PMAG-20 stuff. Progress, for hunters and stoopid states (possibly). <thumbsup> http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG280/101 http://store.magpul.com/product/MAG281/101

I am on two lists. Sadly, I have to admit, this one will be an SBR. I'm on another list for another .308 set in the white, once it's a complete upper, lower, and rail - all in the white. They'll get shipped to US Annodizing for some sexy new clothes. That one might be a 16", but it may well be another SBR. I'm so confused... :o <lmao> The .338 LM steps back again... >:( <dontknow>

Yep. It happened. Contact Rainier Arms for the pre-orders, because they're the only ones that can get you on a pre-order. I'm surprised Drew hasn't mentioned this golden nugget yet... <dontknow> <laughs> He's probably all knotted up in a ball, because I'm certain he knew about this - and he's fighting like hell trying to resist the urge... :o <lmao>

Very nice looking boomstick - I really like those lowers. <thumbsup>

I'll go a step further here. If you've free-floated the gun, used a good barrel from a good manufacturer (that can be a "standard barrel" from most good manufacturers - doesn't need to be an expensive "match barrel" from a custom shop), have a good trigger in there, don't have serious headspace problems, and haven't done anything drastic to mis-match a buffer... That gun should repeatedly shoot well. Looking beyond the "poop happens once in awhile" things with manufacturers, and a few bad parts getting out the doors on seldom occasions, there's not too many other reasons that THE GUN shouldn't be capable of (close to, or at) 1 MOA shooting at 100 yards. That says nothing about the shooter's capabilities. Given those basics, a good shooter should be able to get that gun at 1 MOA at shorter distances. When you start fine tuning the guns, and putting more money into high quality parts - and paying attention to combinations of parts that work well together, and you can shoot, that's when you'll have a gun that's capable of great accuracy at long distances. My $0.02, for what it's worth... EDIT - I forgot to address ammo, most importantly here. Some ammo won't shoot 3 or 4 MOA at distances of 100 feet, let alone yards. Match the quality ammo to the rifle configuration, or you'll find yourself pissing into the wind trying to get good groups, provided everything else is on par...

In short, to make a semi auto rifle accurate: free-float the barrel. use a good trigger. use a quality barrel. verify your headspace upon assembly. use the appropriate buffer. In a nutshell, that's what you can do to make an accurate semi auto. Everything else is fine tuning parts to make them all work together. There's not really much to making an accurate semi auto, besides not using crap-parts. What makes an accurate semi auto is the shooter. A good shooter can make a crap-parts gun look good most of the time. A piss-poor shooter can't make a $5k custom build look good, no matter what. Parts won't help that, if the shooter is not up to par, and it doesn't matter how much you spend, or tweak on the gun. Bottom line - look at training first. Assess that, and figure out what needs to be done, either gun or shooter.

Welcome aboard, brother - recognize you from the AR-15-board side of things. <thumbsup>