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I love Primary Arms - and they just keep putting out good info, through emails, which are links to their Blogs. It's a For Sale ad, but the info it just great. Here's their take on Red Dot Zero info - and it's all legit AF. http://news.primaryarms.com/q/Ffy-SJRtNtguE1JTDJS8YwWhO9PyApy00732KlB51WvBrVbQBedfo65Nf Red Dot Hacks [The ONE Zeroing Tip You Need To Know] 3/23/2022Primary Arms Staff Red Dot Hacks: The ONE Zeroing Tip You NEED To Know New gun-owners, and even those who have been shooting a long time, can easily get confused and frustrated when trying to sight in their rifles. It’s not quite as easy as it seems like it should be. We’ve got the answer for you, though. Here’s the simple, easy to remember hack that’ll save you time when sighting in your red dot sight. MOVING THE POINT OF IMPACT You’ve probably seen that, on any rifle optic, there will be a direction marked on the scope turrets. Usually little arrows placed next to a U for “Up” and an R for “Right” on the elevation and windage knobs, respectively. This indicates where your point of impact will shift when you turn the turret in that direction. That’s the ONE thing that confuses more people than anything else. In a sense, it’s easier to think about it as if you’re using your turrets to steer the bullet hole on the paper to the target’s center. If you’ve got your reticle centered on the paper target, and your bullets are hitting low, you want to turn in the direction indicated for “Up” to move the point of impact higher. If you are hitting to the left, turn in the direction indicated for “Right” to move the point of impact to the right. It’s that easy. Just remember that you’re shifting the bullet’s point of impact and you’ll save a lot of frustration. Here’s some more tips to maximize your range time when sighting in a red dot. HOW TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS Make sure to bring a simple, medium sized flathead screwdriver with you. The flat blade matches up with the shape of the slot better than a coin or cartridge rim does, allowing you to feel each turret click and reducing the chance that you will damage the turret or scratch up the housing. Just take our word for it, it’ll save you heartache. Throw one in your range bag and don’t worry about needing to remember it ever again. Because the internals of these turrets are very finely machined and tiny components, you should protect them by making your clicks smoothly and slowly. If the turret stops turning, don’t try to force it. You’ve reached the end of the turret’s travel and something is probably wrong with how the optic has been mounted to the rifle, accounting for the need for extreme turret adjustments. Trying to force additional point of impact adjustment beyond the turret’s travel will only break your red dot’s internals and ruin your day. Don’t do it! ADJUST ONE DIRECTION AT A TIME Fire a consistent 3-shot group and then decide whether you want to adjust elevation or windage first. Try to make all your adjustment at once. Marksmen unsure of their click values or the math involved will often just count three or four clicks and shoot again, slowly working their way towards the center of the target in a long string of bullet holes. While it’s fun to shoot through a lot of boxes of ammo, this high volume of fire method can heat up your rifle barrel, causing a point of impact shift issue. Once the barrel cools off again, the point of impact returns to a slightly different location and your rifle isn’t as perfectly sighted in as you originally thought. Instead, measure the difference between your shot group’s location and your point of aim, and divide it by the distance covered by each turret click. 1 Minute of Angle (MOA) covers 1.047 inches at 100 yards, with most users preferring to round that figure off to just 1 inch. Most red dots feature either 1 MOA or 0.5 MOA-per-click turrets, so at 100 yards a 1 MOA-per-click optic will shift its point of impact about 1 inch per click, and a 0.5 MOA-per-click optic will shift its point of impact about half an inch per click. You can use a sight-in style target featuring a 1-inch grid pattern or bring a tape measure and measure the distance between your point of aim and your shot group’s point of impact to determine how much adjustment is needed. If you’re sighting in at less than 100 yards, some easy division will help you determine how far one click will shift your bullet’s point of impact at, say, 25 yards. You are 1/4th as far away from the target at 25 yards as you’d be at 100 yards, so your adjustment clicks will be 1/4th as “effective” at moving your point of impact. If a 1 MOA adjustment at 100 yards is roughly an inch, at 1/4th the distance it’ll be 1/4th of an inch. No brainer. Here's a couple of quick reference charts that provide the number of clicks needed to move the point of impact 1 inch given a certain MOA Click value and distance, as well as the distance in inches, roughly, that one click will move the point of impact given a certain MOA click value and distance. Get the accuracy you want out of your rifle and red dot sight. It’s not hard, just take it slow, shoot as accurately as you can, be safe and have fun!

I didn't DO IT!!! You have to hate Greg. Not me. Or, hate GREG...

Just me, brother - but I'm a big fan of getting that scope level out front, and not behind. Try it - you have room up there to push it forward. Getting it forward doesn't fuk you up as bad, when you're acquiring it with your off-eye. Just what I've seen. That scope is WAY back, too. I like the eyepiece about at the end of the upper receiver. You have to have a hellish Length Of Pull on the stock, for proper eye relief. Again, just my $0.02 on it.

Oh shiit...

I've always compared .22LR pistols to my little Walther P22 - that thing just runs. I'm liking this Omni - but I already text Gun Pusher John, telling him we need to "test" a Sig P322...

That is a SEXY little bastard, right there!!! Hmmm...

You're not putting that ammo into a 4" group at 500 yards. Never happen. Not with that ammo. For $900, it didn't come with the G trigger, or the Sprinco spring. Thanks for propping up PSA, though.

I bet I can figure that shiit out, if you want it. I'll risk it, and buy a bunch of pretty Cerakote, and try it. Base color is gonna be Pus$y Pink, though.

Thank you for making this thread, man - well done. Great parts selection, too. Word of caution - Geissele only recommends using their own trigger and hammer pins, so you may not need those anti-walk pins you have. I can tell you from personal experience with enough Geissele triggers - never had one of their pins come out, or even think about it. You'll be okay with the stuff Geissele sent you with the trigger. On that gas system... That SOB buffer is adjustable. 4.9oz is light - but your gas port in the barrel is small. Try the gun like it is, first. With the parts you have already - see what it does. Document how it does, pay attention to what it's doing, if it's not doing what it's supposed to do. Bring that info back here, and we can figure it all out.

NICE!!!

Yeah, I'm seeing that, right now. Apparently, it's not easy to get, so I don't know what Gun Pusher John did to get it, and he got 2 of them. I'm looking for magazines for it now, and it looks like FleaBay only, at about $45 each. Damn! Everybody that lists the mags for sale is either selling just the guns (OOS), or they really list the actual mags, which are OOS. Shiit...

You can try that gas port size out, but I'm pretty positive that it's going to be too small, and you'll need to go up. Start a new thread on the build section, on your gun specifics, and go from there. No sense cluttering this thread up with the data, that may or may not be useful to this thread in the future.

Shot this little dude this morning - ran like a champ, no issues whatsoever. Fed it 40gr CCI Standard ammo, and it performed flawlessly. I only shot 30 rounds, 3 mags full, and it did so well, I didn't waste any more of that precious .22LR ammo. First mag was at 15 yards on an IPSC plate. After that, second mag, I started doing my 5-step drill, walking back 5 steps each time and shooting 2. Went through the mag without a miss, so I guess I got 15, 20, 25, 30, 35 yards, roughly. 3rd mag was just dumping it as fast as I could at 15 yards again. The little thing never missed once on that big fat plate. Solid little .22 pistol, right here. I recommend it, if you're looking for a little .22, and can find one.

Damn, look at all that meat in the frame!!! For a 10mm, it's gonna need it - but that thing is just begging for some picatinny cuts in it. That's fine, fine work, brother.

What is your gas block journal diameter? What size gas block is needed? Doubt it's 0.625", but it could be 0.750", 0.875", or 0.936". Back in the day, when it was Kreiger/Criterion, they made that profile barrel custom for Fulton Armory, it used a 0.936" gas block journal, because it needed a 0.105" gas port.

They already think you're insane. You're unstoppable, after that trick. No Mas.

My personal preference is swinging a 3ft Double Headed Jelly Dong at a motherfucker. Nobody fucks with you when you walk INTO a bar with THAT floppy thing. My preferred color is a purple one. You smack the first asshead with it - and everyone in the bar hears that "SMACK" from a dildo, smashing that dude in the temple... It's really a weird sound, not a "smack" and not a "thump" - but it's a sound that others better recognize... NOBODY wants to fight after that. They saw the first guy go down, right away - from a dick-shot. From a Giant Purple Dick. The fight is already over. It's done. There is no more "fight" in anyone else there. You just had to hit ONE GUY with that thing, and swing it like you meant it. Like you wanted to go over the fence at a game. Stand around yelling "Who's NEXT?!!?" after that - you'll get no takers. They already think you're crazy...

We're all done, if it comes to that. Dead as fuk. Once this planet goes Walking Dead, you better be a Pro Baseballer swinging a bigass stick.

I bought that gun right before Remington went under... and disappeared forever...

Here's the bolt gun - Athlon Argos BTR Gen 2, 6~24 magnification.

Check. The .358 Win needs some weight in the ass of it, badly - more buffer weight. It's a fucking BRUISER right now.

We're here - and not going anywhere. Whenever you get the chance, come on down. Announced, unannounced, doesn't matter - we can put an Ad Hoc Shoot together. We don't care WHAT you shoot, not here. We care THAT you shoot... something...

Next big shoot here is over Vet's Day weekend. Can you get from Wyoming to Arizona for it? I have almost a 180* range fan, from camp. From camp, we can shoot 1760 yards - a true Mile. We do it. Everything in between, too - rifle, pistol, shotgun, wrist-rockets, and bowling ball cannons. No caliber is disrespected, in any way. They're all welcome.