308lrnewb Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 march 19, 2015... likely not getting a response from him. darn. well, calling these people tomorrow on my lunch break. going to find some things out. apparently they are located in california. Have to find out more. Will atleast report back
unclemoak Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 1 hour ago, shepp said: That thing is sexy as fornicate awwwwwww yeah
308lrnewb Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 Found this: http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f20/salt-works-rifles-118650/index4.html
shepp Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 48 minutes ago, 308lrnewb said: So, what can you tell me about them? Did this Wash fellow take any more interest? The page does not even offer much of an insight about this company. @washguy
308lrnewb Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 hey, unclemoak!! Nice rifle. Tell me more about your bolt carrier group. it is good for high pressure stuff? Really hot 168/175gr hollow points mainly. Also, why the fluted carrier?
unclemoak Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 3 minutes ago, 308lrnewb said: hey, unclemoak!! Nice rifle. Tell me more about your bolt carrier group. it is good for high pressure stuff? Really hot 168/175gr hollow points mainly. Also, why the fluted carrier? Standard LR308 bolts, like I make, aren't the best inherent design for HP rounds because of the large firing pin diameter. Granted I haven't seen or experienced a ruptured primer in the years I've been make bolts to this design shooting standard 7.62 ball ammo and most commercial .308 ammo. But for the long range guys that are loading rounds hotter, there is a tendency for the primers to crater and a chance of blowing out a poorly seated primer. As for the fluting, it's there to be a little different than every one else's. It does lighten the carrier up a slight amount, but nothing noteworthy.
blue109 Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 Damn man! You still straining your brain over this? Take you top 3 in-stock choices, tape them to a wall, and throw a dart. The receiver just holds the important stuff in place. I could swap my matrix set out for anything else mentioned in this thread so far and it would still be the same gun.
shepp Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 4 minutes ago, blue109 said: Damn man! You still straining your brain over this? Take you top 3 in-stock choices, tape them to a wall, and throw a dart. The receiver just holds the important stuff in place. I could swap my matrix set out for anything else mentioned in this thread so far and it would still be the same gun. 100% what he said. Pretty much what I been saying, pull the trigger man!!!!!!
MikedaddyH Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 On 7/18/2016 at 4:26 PM, Trumpet said: To tag on here....how about makers like Quentin Defense and S&S Armory? CMT? Also, is a FA considered necessary for a "big" AR or not? I have two Quentin Defense lowers which I built guns on, the Kasey Kane #5 and the Kyle Busch #18 rifles. These used DPMS factory upper receivers and the fit is very good. Also bought a 6.8spc complete upper from them.
survivalshop Posted July 20, 2016 Report Posted July 20, 2016 (edited) 17 hours ago, unclemoak said: awwwwwww yeah Show off ! I have seen the HP Bolts with the small dia. firing pin http://www.fulton-armory.com/bolttitancompleted.aspx has them , D.Wilson sells striped Bolt Carriers also . If you just want to build a 308AR & don't want to wait for an Areo to be available , go with the one of the ones you mentioned , if you don't like it when done , just sell it . Edited July 20, 2016 by survivalshop
308lrnewb Posted July 20, 2016 Author Report Posted July 20, 2016 right on. I think matrix is out of stock also? I checked their webpage.. dunno. What are some good flat side (non forward assist) receiver sets? I like the falkor but.. i mean.. it has some proprietary stuff and is pricey. Sure it is nice. dunno. My thing right now is actual worth versus investment. Is a 'pretty'(easily debated) ambi receiver set going to be worth the investment price? Yea.. It is good for the 45* safety and easy to use controls. Eh... I just want a quality, tight fight that is reasonable in cost that works well with the hiperfire trigger and blah blah blah. I am starting to look at costs like "important/necessary" and "lavish/excess" That aero carbine looks nice. I almost opted for the vltor tube/stock with the ar15 heavy buffer like slash recommends. Except.. issues of being in stock. Everything seems to be out of stock right now. driving the supply/demand chain. vicious
washguy Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 23 hours ago, 308lrnewb said: So, what can you tell me about them? Did this Wash fellow take any more interest? The page does not even offer much of an insight about this company. 308 Yep i looked into it sexy lil deal,but they hosed some folks buying them.....long wait or nothing shipped...hell dont remember exactly but if it was a good thing I would already have one coming Washfellow
washguy Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 when I was researching saltworks I also came across these folks https://store.area53.com/ShoppingCart.aspx?com=productlist&cid=352&srch=t and almost got caught up in "the rule" Wash
survivalshop Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 Tactical Machining has both 308 AR Uppers & Lowers in stock , DPMS style or real close to it http://www.tacticalmachining.com/100-receivers/308-lower-receiver.html http://www.tacticalmachining.com/firearms-parts/308-upper-receiver.html Fulton Armory also has DPMS type Receivers in stock . http://www.fulton-armory.com/receivers-2.aspx Both Companies are top notch , just not the sexy things some look for , but solid units .
308lrnewb Posted July 21, 2016 Author Report Posted July 21, 2016 Thank you survivalshop!! Washguy, I tried calling - their phone service is bunk. I posted a link a bit up about another forum having a thread on those issues. apparently, a new owner is in place.. a lot of problems. I agree - they sure did look good. Who knows. I saw rainer was out, so was matrix, falkor is on backorder. almost everyone. Have yet to contact mega.. May have to try them in a few days. Seems like everything is sold off the shelves. Appreciate everyone's help and standing support. I am going to sit on my funds a few more weeks and see what becomes available.. or more likely what else sells out. That way, I can have a bigger option(or less choices and an easier pick). Falkor said two to three weeks before they are resupplied on the shelf. Matrix never returned my call. saltworks seems neat but.. I hear the new owner is waiting for FFL paperwork and struggling with all of the cluster-bombed mess he inherited. Allegedly the original clientele are being given priority and taken care of. That Aero unclemoak showed really was good looking. Only thing I would complain about - COLOR! *wink* I am not a flat earth fan. Olive wins with both hands down. HAHAHAHAHA, but seriously - it was a sharp looker. Well, I will leave it at what it is for a while.
washguy Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 (edited) 308 whats the problemo? just buy this one Mega Wash http://www.jsesurplus.com/MegaArmsMATEN308UpperAmbiLowerSetM308-0904-HA.aspx Edited July 21, 2016 by washguy
Trumpet Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 On 7/20/2016 at 2:16 PM, MikedaddyH said: I have two Quentin Defense lowers which I built guns on, the Kasey Kane #5 and the Kyle Busch #18 rifles. These used DPMS factory upper receivers and the fit is very good. Also bought a 6.8spc complete upper from them. You like them? Any downsides to them?
MikedaddyH Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 They are F*cking Beautiful ! Dane Armory had Quentin Defense make their lowers and I have a rifle made with that lower also. SunDevil makes a very high quality upper and lower set but they are always back ordered. They make sets for several other companies. Check their site if they have stock .... Buy immediately DO NOT hesitate ,just take the hit to your wallet and smile !
survivalshop Posted July 21, 2016 Report Posted July 21, 2016 His options are limited too , because of low or no stock , so I think we can go a couple more pages I say back order the one that makes you feel all wet inside & be done with it , that way if something comes up , you can just cancel the back order .
MikedaddyH Posted July 22, 2016 Report Posted July 22, 2016 I highly recommend just using JSE while they are still in stock ! Now is not the time to be picky or you will be left out !
308lrnewb Posted July 22, 2016 Author Report Posted July 22, 2016 survivalshop, thanks! It is more like... I work on commission pay to fix real world broken automobiles. We get payed 'by the book' on 'flagged hours'. So, when I decide to spend money.. I think about how many transmissions, differentials and engines I rebuild. Or.. How many frame swaps I do for a fleet line vehicle contract. Which, for simple ideas.. the one frame swap I am doing this week pays 35 hours of labor. Not 'simple' by any means. Comparatively.. a standard brake job pays 1.0 to 1.5 hours of labor. Think of it like this.. I am that really fat kid who got a nickel for his birthday, standing at the counter of the candy store. Stop rushing me damnit! If I want to mouthbreath a misty fog all over the glass counter... I will. The one I buy is the only one I get. So, it better be right. Hahahahahaha.. Jokes aside.. There is nothing much in stock. I do not mind the Mega. Just.. I am counting my pennies and thinking a lot about how to invest. I am part Jewish.. not really, but very frugal/thrifty/spendwise. The worst part is, a lot of those handguards get expensive. I want a long length tube with minimal weight. Them SLR ultra-lite tubes are $$$. Everything just takes money. =X
MikedaddyH Posted July 22, 2016 Report Posted July 22, 2016 3 minutes ago, 308lrnewb said: survivalshop, thanks! It is more like... I work on commission pay to fix real world broken automobiles. We get payed 'by the book' on 'flagged hours'. So, when I decide to spend money.. I think about how many transmissions, differentials and engines I rebuild. Or.. How many frame swaps I do for a fleet line vehicle contract. Which, for simple ideas.. the one frame swap I am doing this week pays 35 hours of labor. Not 'simple' by any means. Comparatively.. a standard brake job pays 1.0 to 1.5 hours of labor. Think of it like this.. I am that really fat kid who got a nickel for his birthday, standing at the counter of the candy store. Stop rushing me damnit! If I want to mouthbreath a misty fog all over the glass counter... I will. The one I buy is the only one I get. So, it better be right. Hahahahahaha.. Jokes aside.. There is nothing much in stock. I do not mind the Mega. Just.. I am counting my pennies and thinking a lot about how to invest. I am part Jewish.. not really, but very frugal/thrifty/spendwise. The worst part is, a lot of those handguards get expensive. I want a long length tube with minimal weight. Them SLR ultra-lite tubes are $$$. Everything just takes money. =X I under stand you situation . Getting the lower receiver is the most important part right now. The rest of the parts can wait.... Remember 08' and 12' election caused a major depletion of firearm products across the country ! It HRC gets elected $hits goin' get really sarce !
308lrnewb Posted July 22, 2016 Author Report Posted July 22, 2016 Yea. I just noticed. JSE is in SE missouri. I live about 50 miles west of columbia. Tomorrow on lunch I am calling them. Saturday, I may be making a retail store visit to pick up that mega ambi set. I have that much cash in my hand. Thank you all for the heads up. Hopefully, they do not sell out before Saturday.
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