JJ109 Posted November 15, 2016 Report Share Posted November 15, 2016 Anyone use or have any experience with this trigger yet? Seems pretty cool. They have designed it to be a straight drop in https://www.gunsamerica.com/blog/fostechs-echo-trigger-fires-rapid-fire-double-taps/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Looks like your buying one and writing us a review ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EngrBob Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 14 minutes ago, shepp said: Looks like your buying one and writing us a review ? THE RULE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted November 16, 2016 Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 He still has 8 hours. Then BAM!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted November 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2016 Lmao. Might just buy one and let you know! Comes with a BCG so this will change my current build Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bowhtr1 Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I need one of those. I also need there shotgun. That's bad azz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I see that teaching people horrible trigger control though as most people will just be slapping the trigger as fast as they can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Yea i think if people buy it just to do mag dumps then yea. But it looks really good for double taps. The only movement of you finger is on the pull , on the release there is no movement to fire another round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 why do you need to double tap? hit them with the first round with even just a spitwad and you will have plenty of time to take an accurate shot with good form like the first should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 6 hours ago, ARTrooper said: why do you need to double tap? hit them with the first round with even just a spitwad and you will have plenty of time to take an accurate shot with good form like the first should be. Why not have a quick double tap or 2 round burst? Two rounds into anything is better then one the trigger pull seems a little on the heavy side. Articles i have read on it saying the trigger pull is less then that video i posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 double taps only work for close engagements, proper trigger control and follow through work at all distances and is more accurate. slapping a quick second round is just asking to screw up your muscle memory and with it, your form. Train to make the first round count. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 I'll be waiting for you review also , thanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 So JJ you are out in the woods mag dumping and doing some echo bursts on the echo position...someone complains bout machine gun fire they hear way over in the woods...lol or a LEO hears it while on patrol Can you stand the ride? Cause when the game warden/high sheriff/local popo come over to see what the ruckus is ...your day of fun is gonna turn south.So, when the law enforcement takes a look at your weapon and see's the safety lever go to the third position it will be game over...I dont care whether you a got a personal letter and stamp from J. Edgar Hoover ...you are gonna take a ride...cause the officer is gonna let the system figure this out...your BATF letter that you got from the trigger folks wont mean squat...you be in the back seat ,and the "machine gun" be in the trunk.... Truth Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted November 19, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 Wash that may be true when you do that type of shooting, but i have never done any mags dumps. I have shot rapid fire 2 or 3 rounds but thats it. Its controlled. AR as for " slapping a quick 2nd round " really doesnt sound like its uncontrolled when its very natural movement when firing a weapon cause your getting your 2nd round just by releasing the trigger. The only thing with this tigger if the pull is actually over 5lbs then its not going to be a precise shooting trigger......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted November 19, 2016 Report Share Posted November 19, 2016 No substitute for practice. Jerry isn't running any gimmicks in this video, just proper technique and LOTS of rounds downrange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted November 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Jerry is a legend. That guy shoot more money in ammo then most people make in a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 double taps and speed shooting is cool and all, and if you do it correctly with practice as jtallen pointed out, you can have proper form and good control. what I was pointing out is it will effect muscle memory of shooting longer distances if you do not train both, so you use double the rounds to get that muscle memory for both types of shooting. and something else I was pointing out is one accurate round will give you plenty of time to send another accurate one down range same as if you were shooting at longer distances. the third thing I pointed out, is that most people don't train enough, so at least 99% of people that were to use this would probably not have proper trigger control or that muscle memory. I wasn't trying to downplay professional shooters like Jerry, but lets face it, he's a professional that practices a lot. This is strictly range stuff for fun in my opinion. when it comes to actually having to use one of these weapons, you aren't going to probably be 10 yards away and you probably are gonna take cover. If a fun range toy is what you want, by all means go for it. but practicality beyond getting a woody from the smell gun powder and filling a target full of holes is none in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 (edited) "This is strictly range stuff for fun in my opinion. when it comes to actually having to use one of these weapons, you aren't going to probably be 10 yards away and you probably are gonna take cover. " OR you might say "Hands up dont shoot! " Wash I might add Im in Texas...and there is no, and im saying not one range within 100's of miles that allow rapid fire and not even double taps....theres a vid of me getting thrown out of a gun range on here for testing a hyperfire or a Geissele trigger at an indoor range after the RO said I could....the security video team came out of a secret wall door and accosted me....well it was 3 not 2 shots....lol private property is the ticket Edited November 20, 2016 by washguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 I'm a shoot first, ask questions later type of guy. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ109 Posted November 20, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Most of you guys are forgetting that the trigger does have " semi auto " I forgot that most of everyone that shoots firearms just shoot as job. Oh i forgot most of us just shoot to practice self protection. Thats right no one shoot for fun anymore........ Shooting is just for serious people. There is no way you can have a good time shooting. Wow come on. seriously lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 JJ Yep you are right....buy the Echo.. have some fun...dont listen to us old fokkers.. Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRS Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Those sort of sounds are an everyday occurrences around these parts, the local, state, and the feds don't bother anyone, so many people have tax stamps and recreational mag dumps are just par for the course, you know how us country folk like to cling to our guns and Bibles and all.... haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 Lol. fair enough JJ. I just don't have the money to just have fun... I have kids. lol. if I did have the money to shoot like that though, I would want to shoot from a belt fed platform.http://www.beltfedar.com/belt_feed_conversions/https://fightlite.com/collections/belt-fed-uppers a carbon fiber wrapped barrel to keep it cool would help too. Wash, is this a build that should be liquid cooled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 20, 2016 Report Share Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, ARTrooper said: Lol. fair enough JJ. I just don't have the money to just have fun... I have kids. lol. if I did have the money to shoot like that though, I would want to shoot from a belt fed platform.http://www.beltfedar.com/belt_feed_conversions/https://fightlite.com/collections/belt-fed-uppers a carbon fiber wrapped barrel to keep it cool would help too. Wash, is this a build that should be liquid cooled? yes with bovine urine... Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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