White Water Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Greetings from Louisiana. I cut my teeth shooting feathers, then got into deer hunting. But for the last 15 years have dedicated myself to walking behind bird dogs. So much so that I sold all my deer gear and don't even own a rifle bigger than a .22. Times are a changin though. I want a rifle for pigs, deer and self defense. I know there is no one perfect rifle that does it all, but I think an AR comes pretty close. I believe .308 would be best for hunting, .223 may be best for self defense. I am torn between power, weight and cost. Also, the only thing I do left handed is shoot a long gun. I was leaning towards the S & W M&P 10 for its ambi controls. Why say y'all?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Welcome from Arizona! Looks like we have a pretty good Louisiana contingent building here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 (edited) Welcome from Iowa, via Pensacola! Lots of options for ambi controls, you can add features to about any AR. Edited December 13, 2016 by jtallen83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Welcome from Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Welcome from southern Wisconsin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Welcome from AZ ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted December 13, 2016 Report Share Posted December 13, 2016 Welcome from Texas Being an old brown shoe Marine we have been thru several battle rifle transactions from Springfield 1903, Garand M1 30 cal M14 .308, Colt M16 .223. I can understand anyone questioning whether to go .223 or.308 also which platform AR, Garand, or perhaps a commercial semi-auto or bolt or even a pump or lever action sporting rifle. However, since you landed here I suppose you are leaning heavily towards AR platform. I think for your wants and needs I would say go with either Armalite or another popular .308 pattern. Many will say an AR 15 .223 will do the job at lower cost and lighter weight, but it don't work for me, and I do also have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 14, 2016 Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 Think 6.8 spc or 300 Black Out also , good hunting loads , less weight , because you can use the AR 15 platform & much less cost then a 308AR , since its your first AR ,it will not be your last . & welcome from Florida . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Water Posted December 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2016 (edited) Wanted to stick with either .223 or .308 because ammo is much more readily available. Most reviews and info I found on S & W was positive, yet some have steered me away. Why isn't there a big following? Am I missing something due to my Ignorance of ARs? What makes one brand better than another ? MRMACKC, you said basically anything other than S & W. Also, are you telling me that I can make any AR ambi? Edited December 14, 2016 by White Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 Yes on the Ambi up to a point, other major change like the ejection port and the forward assist is costly. Why not S&W ARs, I don't see very many of them around. also availability, price, and usually lack of superior performance. There are a lot of DPMS brand and pattern .308s of several versions and usually you can find one new in the box for $700 - $900 buy it today, mount some glass or iron sights, and shoot it today .....or if you want to build your own custom piece, buy a pile of custom parts build it and shoot it after a while. Remember, the .308 version is non Mil Spec and often one vendors private brand parts may not fit another makers parts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rsquared Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 1 hour ago, mrmackc said: Remember, the .308 version is non Mil Spec and often one vendors private brand parts may not fit another makers parts. ^^^^ THAT! Right there is one of the most valuable pieces of intel that someone can use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 15, 2016 Report Share Posted December 15, 2016 (edited) DPMS G2 , 308AR , lighter then the DPMS LR versions & has got pretty good reviews here . Edited December 15, 2016 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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