se3388 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) Does anyone have info or a link for info on using CFE223 in our 308 AR's? I found some info but it didn't specify it was for a gas gun or bolt. There was no info for that powder in Hornadys #9 Manual in the Gas Gun section. Steve............ Edited October 26, 2017 by se3388 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 You have probably been here, but I will post it just in case. As you mention, it doesn't mention gas or bolt gun. https://www.hodgdon.com/cfe-223/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se3388 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) As the saying goes, "been there done that", but thanks anyway. Steve........... Edited October 26, 2017 by se3388 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se3388 Posted October 26, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Upon digging farther it is doable but there seems to be numerous powders that are much better in a 308 Gas Gun. Steve......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, se3388 said: Upon digging farther it is doable but there seems to be numerous powders that are much better in a 308 Gas Gun. Steve......... Reloder 15 is one of them. Great stuff. Find Varget, if you can. Best .308 Win powder I've ever used. Once it became scarce, I started switching, and landed on RL15. Edited October 26, 2017 by 98Z5V Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 I went to Ramshot " TAC " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Ramshot TAC AA2520 IMR4064* *If you can stand the agony of using Lincoln Logs. I can't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted October 26, 2017 Report Share Posted October 26, 2017 Varget is H4046 with the temperature sensibility additives. And for my money, I have more variation behind the trigger nut than the difference in IMR4064 vs H4064. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se3388 Posted October 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 27, 2017 I kind of have the same problem everytime I go to the Range, no matter how careful I check over my rifles that loose nut behind the butt causes problem. Steve.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted October 28, 2017 Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 On 10/26/2017 at 9:05 AM, bubbas4570 said: Varget is H4046 with the temperature sensibility additives. And for my money, I have more variation behind the trigger nut than the difference in IMR4064 vs H4064. I've not heard of H4064. It's not listed in their reloading charts. New stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se3388 Posted October 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 28, 2017 That's a new one on me, I haven't seen H4064 on the shelf yet. Steve.......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 Sorry guys.....brain fart. IMR4046. I was in lala land when i posted that I guess. Not thinking can make things go south quickly, luckily I had people checking me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 I kept thinking about the other IMR versus Hodgdon powders that share same numbers....don't ask, going back into my hole..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 We all make mistakes. No big deal. I have found Varget to load far more easily than IMR4064. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted October 29, 2017 Report Share Posted October 29, 2017 On 10/26/2017 at 1:33 AM, 98Z5V said: Reloder 15 is one of them. Great stuff. Find Varget, if you can. Best .308 Win powder I've ever used. Once it became scarce, I started switching, and landed on RL15. +1 Both are great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubbas4570 Posted October 30, 2017 Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 19 hours ago, mineralman55 said: We all make mistakes. No big deal. I have found Varget to load far more easily than IMR4064. Yep, the grains a bit shorter, me thinks. But I will say, the onpy problems I ever had was with bridging in the powder drop with 4064,. And that was remedied with consistently forceful use of powder measurer. Now I will be finding out just how 4064 works on a Hornady progressive press....might be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
se3388 Posted October 30, 2017 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2017 Just kidding with you, I was sure that was what happened, IMR 4064 does real good in my 6.5 x 55. Steve........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unzman55 Posted December 3, 2017 Report Share Posted December 3, 2017 On 10/30/2017 at 5:45 AM, bubbas4570 said: Yep, the grains a bit shorter, me thinks. But I will say, the onpy problems I ever had was with bridging in the powder drop with 4064,. And that was remedied with consistently forceful use of powder measurer. Now I will be finding out just how 4064 works on a Hornady progressive press....might be interesting. My Howa bolt gun loves Varget. In 150 and 165 Hornady SP and SST loads. Don't have an AR308 yet, but I will soon for a new deer gun. Never tried IMR 4064. Varget is what I'm starting with when the build is complete, just out of experience with the bolt gun. I've tried IMR 4895 and CFE 223, nowhere near the accuracy of Varget. Wisconsin deer hunting winters and outdoor ranges are cold af, I need a powder that can handle the temp changes. Gotta love that crrrrruuuunnch with the powder measure and extruded powders. I've never progressive loaded, but the charges I've thrown with a Hornady powder measure never deviated +/- 1 full grain. As long as you aren't right at max I think you'll be fine. I've only under measure thrown, then trickled to final charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted December 4, 2017 Report Share Posted December 4, 2017 IMR 4064 is probably the best all around .30 cal. med. to large case cap. Powder out there , its just a bitch to measure in Powder measuring devices & is why I get close with the Charge wt. , then as said above ,( for Hunting or Target loads) , I finish by trickle charging to my load spec's . I use IMR 4064 a lot for the Hunting loads , temp. doesn't seem to effect it much & it shoots real good in Semi Auto or Bolt Guns . I just like the Ball Powders for my military type rifles , meters flawlessly from any of my Progressives or the Powder measurer . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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