CFE 223 for the 308 AR's

[se3388]

Does anyone have info or a link for info on using CFE223 in our 308 AR's?  I found some info but it didn't specify it was for a gas gun or bolt. There was no info for that powder in Hornadys #9 Manual in the Gas Gun section.

 

Steve............

Edited October 26, 2017 by se3388

[Armed Eye Doc]

You have probably been here, but I will post it just in case.  As you mention, it doesn't mention gas or bolt gun.

https://www.hodgdon.com/cfe-223/

[se3388]

As the saying goes, "been there done that",  but thanks anyway.

 

Steve...........

Edited October 26, 2017 by se3388

[se3388]

Upon digging farther it is doable but there seems to be numerous powders that are much better in a 308 Gas Gun.

 

Steve.........

[98Z5V]

3 hours ago, se3388 said:

Upon digging farther it is doable but there seems to be numerous powders that are much better in a 308 Gas Gun.

 

Steve.........

Reloder 15 is one of them.  Great stuff.   Find Varget, if you can.  Best .308 Win powder I've ever used.  Once it became scarce, I started switching, and landed on RL15. 

Edited October 26, 2017 by 98Z5V

[survivalshop]

 I went to Ramshot " TAC " 

[mineralman55]

Ramshot TAC

AA2520

IMR4064*

 

*If you can stand the agony of using Lincoln Logs. I can't.

[bubbas4570]

Varget is H4046 with the temperature sensibility  additives.

And for my money,  I have more variation behind the trigger nut than the difference in IMR4064 vs H4064.

[se3388]

I kind of have the same problem everytime I go to the Range, no matter how careful I check over my rifles that loose nut behind the butt causes problem.

 

Steve..........

[mineralman55]

On 10/26/2017 at 9:05 AM, bubbas4570 said:

Varget is H4046 with the temperature sensibility  additives.

And for my money,  I have more variation behind the trigger nut than the difference in IMR4064 vs H4064.

I've not heard of H4064. It's not listed in their reloading charts. New stuff?

[se3388]

That's a new one on me, I haven't seen H4064 on the shelf yet.

 

Steve..........

[bubbas4570]

Sorry guys.....brain fart.  IMR4046. I was in lala land when i posted that I guess.

 

Not thinking can make things go south quickly, luckily I had people checking me!

[bubbas4570]

I kept thinking about the other IMR versus Hodgdon powders that share same numbers....don't ask, going back into my hole.....

[mineralman55]

We all make mistakes. No big deal.

I have found Varget to load far more easily than IMR4064.

[Sisco]

On 10/26/2017 at 1:33 AM, 98Z5V said:

Reloder 15 is one of them.  Great stuff.   Find Varget, if you can.  Best .308 Win powder I've ever used.  Once it became scarce, I started switching, and landed on RL15. 

+1 Both are great.

[bubbas4570]

19 hours ago, mineralman55 said:

We all make mistakes. No big deal.

I have found Varget to load far more easily than IMR4064.

Yep, the grains a bit shorter, me thinks.

But I will say, the onpy problems I ever had was with bridging in the powder drop with 4064,. And that was remedied with consistently forceful use of powder measurer.  Now I will be finding out just how 4064 works on a Hornady progressive press....might be interesting.

[se3388]

Just kidding with you, I was sure that was what happened, IMR 4064 does real good in my 6.5 x 55.

 

Steve........

[unzman55]

On 10/30/2017 at 5:45 AM, bubbas4570 said:

Yep, the grains a bit shorter, me thinks.

But I will say, the onpy problems I ever had was with bridging in the powder drop with 4064,. And that was remedied with consistently forceful use of powder measurer.  Now I will be finding out just how 4064 works on a Hornady progressive press....might be interesting.

My Howa bolt gun loves Varget.  In 150 and 165 Hornady SP and SST loads.  Don't have an AR308 yet, but I will soon for a new deer gun.  Never tried IMR 4064.  Varget is what I'm starting with when the build is complete, just out of experience with the bolt gun.  I've tried IMR 4895 and CFE 223, nowhere near the accuracy of Varget.  Wisconsin deer hunting winters and outdoor ranges are cold af, I need a powder that can handle the temp changes.

Gotta love that crrrrruuuunnch with the powder measure and extruded powders.  I've never progressive loaded, but the charges I've thrown with a Hornady powder measure never deviated +/- 1 full grain.  As long as you aren't right at max I think you'll be fine.  I've only under measure thrown, then trickled to final charge.

[survivalshop]

     IMR 4064 is probably the best all around .30 cal. med. to large case cap. Powder out there , its just a bitch to measure in Powder measuring devices & is why I get close with the Charge wt. , then as said above ,( for Hunting or Target loads) , I finish by trickle charging to my load spec's . 

 I use IMR 4064 a lot for the Hunting loads , temp. doesn't seem to effect it much & it shoots real good in Semi Auto or Bolt Guns  . I just like the Ball Powders for my military type rifles , meters flawlessly from any of my Progressives or the Powder measurer .