Phatassjay Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 I'm going to assume this can be done? I hope? I know there has to be a different buffer spring also. Anyone have any good options? I'm trying to go slightly lighter in weight. Thanks!
98Z5V Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 https://forum.308ar.com/search/?q="collapsible stock"
Armed Eye Doc Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Look for a genuine Armalite AR10 carbine buffer, tube and spring. That will make sure you get a functioning system. Don't try to mix and match parts. It is easy to get the wrong thing because most companies do not know what does and doesn't work. Edited July 11, 2018 by Armed Eye Doc
Sisco Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Armed Eye Doc said: Look for a genuine Armalite AR10 carbine buffer, tube and spring. That will make sure you get a functioning system. Don't try to mix and match parts. It is easy to get the wrong thing because most companies do not know what does and doesn't work. Good advice. Not a collapsible, but take a look at a Luth MBA 1. Gives you a lot of adjustments for a similar weight to the original. Don’t have to replace your spring, buffer and buffer tube either.
bubbas4570 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 that MBA1 stock is about as light as you can go, with out going to a Carbine style collapsible. It's also alo cheaper cuz you do not have to spring for the whole buffer tube assembly system.
Phatassjay Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, Armed Eye Doc said: Look for a genuine Armalite AR10 carbine buffer, tube and spring. That will make sure you get a functioning system. Don't try to mix and match parts. It is easy to get the wrong thing because most companies do not know what does and doesn't work. Thanks! Just not a fan of the fixed stock, want some adjustment. I'll check on the armalite site to see if the have the buffer tube and spring that will work. Thanks!
bubbas4570 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 Which length gas system are you running on yours?
Robocop1051 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 1. Find an Armalite AR-10 or Vltor A5 receiver extension (aka buffer tube). 2. Use an Armalite AR-10 buffet spring. There’s only one size, so if it says “Armalite” and “AR-10” then it’s the correct spring. 3. Check out the American Built Arms (AB Arms) Urban Sniper Stock (USS) with the buttpad extension. 4. Thank me later.
Phatassjay Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Posted July 11, 2018 1 hour ago, bubbas4570 said: Which length gas system are you running on yours? No idea. It's an ar10 (b) takes the original armalite mags. Thats all I know. Everything on it is stock.
Phatassjay Posted July 11, 2018 Author Report Posted July 11, 2018 21 minutes ago, Robocop1051 said: 1. Find an Armalite AR-10 or Vltor A5 receiver extension (aka buffer tube). 2. Use an Armalite AR-10 buffet spring. There’s only one size, so if it says “Armalite” and “AR-10” then it’s the correct spring. 3. Check out the American Built Arms (AB Arms) Urban Sniper Stock (USS) with the buttpad extension. 4. Thank me later. Why wait? I'll thank you now! Thanks!!
jtallen83 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Posted July 11, 2018 3 hours ago, Phatassjay said: I'll check on the armalite site to see if the have the buffer tube and spring that will work. Good luck, I have not gotten an in stock notification from Armalite in months, they are taking forever to make their move!
Phatassjay Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 17 hours ago, jtallen83 said: Good luck, I have not gotten an in stock notification from Armalite in months, they are taking forever to make their move! Yeah they have been moving for months now. I've been going on the site and just get hung up on a random page. I'll have to look elsewhere I guess.
Sisco Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 11 minutes ago, Phatassjay said: Yeah they have been moving for months now. I've been going on the site and just get hung up on a random page. I'll have to look elsewhere I guess. Call them first.
Phatassjay Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 I did some research and this looks to be the kit I need....I think? Like I said I have an old A2 style fixed od green stock now and want to change to collapsible. Is this what I need? AR10REKIT01 17 hours ago, jtallen83 said: Good luck, I have not gotten an in stock notification from Armalite in months, they are taking forever to make their move! Yeah they have been moving for months now. I've been going on the site and just get hung up on a random page. I'll have to look elsewhere I guess.
Robocop1051 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Phatassjay said: I did some research and this looks to be the kit I need....I think? Like I said I have an old A2 style fixed od green stock now and want to change to collapsible. Is this what I need? AR10REKIT01 That's the complete kit. The parts are also available individually if you know what to look for and where to look.
Phatassjay Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Posted July 12, 2018 39 minutes ago, Robocop1051 said: That's the complete kit. The parts are also available individually if you know what to look for and where to look. I think the complete kit may be easier, most of the places are on back order. Might be a task hunting down each individual part? I'm on the hunt though, this is a long overdue upgrade! Thanks!
Robocop1051 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Posted July 12, 2018 The owner of "Heavy Buffers" only uses Armalite springs... https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-springs/modified-308-ar-buffer-spring-prod44698.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR%20xzzx308&psize=96 You're paying for the name brand here, but the VLTOR A5 is the same as the 6 position Armalite AR-10 https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/buffer-tube-parts/buffer-tubes/ar-15-m16-a5-mil-spec-buffer-tube-prod55056.aspx The buffers "should" be the same; 2.5" long and weighs 3.8oz https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-buffers/308ar-carbine-buffer-prod104527.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR%20xzzx308 Coupon code: PJJ Free shipping and $15 off $150 Coupon code: PJK Free shipping and $35 off $300
Phatassjay Posted July 13, 2018 Author Report Posted July 13, 2018 22 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: The owner of "Heavy Buffers" only uses Armalite springs... https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-springs/modified-308-ar-buffer-spring-prod44698.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR%20xzzx308&psize=96 You're paying for the name brand here, but the VLTOR A5 is the same as the 6 position Armalite AR-10 https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/buffer-tube-parts/buffer-tubes/ar-15-m16-a5-mil-spec-buffer-tube-prod55056.aspx The buffers "should" be the same; 2.5" long and weighs 3.8oz https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/recoil-parts/recoil-buffers/308ar-carbine-buffer-prod104527.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR%20xzzx308 Coupon code: PJJ Free shipping and $15 off $150 Coupon code: PJK Free shipping and $35 off $300 Thanks alot!!!
98Z5V Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 NO 2.5" BUFFERS IN THIS SETUP!!! NONE!!! THAT'S DPMS-BASED LR-308 SHIIT!!! ONLY USE BUFFERS THAT ARE 3.250" LONG, AND ARE H3-WEIGHTED!!! AR15 H3 CARBINE BUFFERS, OR A REAL ARMALITE AR-10 CARBINE BUFFER!!!
Sisco Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 On 7/11/2018 at 4:31 PM, jtallen83 said: Good luck, I have not gotten an in stock notification from Armalite in months, they are taking forever to make their move! The amount of lost orders and lost marketshare by Armalite due to this extended out move has to be huge, Wonder if something else is going on? Companies generally plan out relocations like a general planning out a military campaign to minimize disruption and minimize lost sales and production. This is not normal or businesslike.
jtallen83 Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Sisco said: This is not normal or businesslike. Not much since Col. Westrom was bought out has been normal or business like! They are little by little killing off the brand again.
Sisco Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, jtallen83 said: Not much since Col. Westrom was bought out has been normal or business like! They are little by little killing off the brand again. I give 50/50 odds they either discontinue or sell the Armalite brand.
Sisco Posted July 14, 2018 Report Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) Jay: Every thing you need on sale, $94 If it ever gets back in stock this century. https://www.armalite.com/product/10702302-ar10-black-collapsing-buttstock-kit/ Edited July 14, 2018 by Sisco
Phatassjay Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Posted July 15, 2018 3 hours ago, Sisco said: Jay: Every thing you need on sale, $94 If it ever gets back in stock Thanks!! Hope so if not have to get it done elsewhere.
Phatassjay Posted July 18, 2018 Author Report Posted July 18, 2018 Called armalite and they got all the parts together for the stock change...as stated above just call them!
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