alelks Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Talking about Sheeple on my facebook page tonight reminded me of this from Retired LTC Dave Grossman. Personally I think it's a MUST READ for everyone on the planet. It's a long read but I promise it's worth it. :)On Sheep, Wolves, and Sheepdogs - Dave GrossmanBy LTC (RET) Dave Grossman, author of "On Killing."Honor never grows old, and honor rejoices the heart of age. It does so because honor is, finally, about defending those noble and worthy things that deserve defending, even if it comes at a high cost. In our time, that may mean social disapproval, public scorn, hardship, persecution, or as always,even death itself. The question remains: What is worth defending? What is worth dying for? What is worth living for? - William J. Bennett - in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy November 24, 1997One Vietnam veteran, an old retired colonel, once said this to me:"Most of the people in our society are sheep. They are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by accident." This is true. Remember, the murder rate is six per 100,000 per year, and the aggravated assault rate is four per 1,000 per year. What this means is that the vast majority of Americans are not inclined to hurt one another. Some estimates say that two million Americans are victims of violent crimes every year, a tragic, staggering number, perhaps an all-time record rate of violent crime. But there are almost 300 million Americans, which means that the odds of being a victim of violent crime is considerably less than one in a hundred on any given year. Furthermore, since many violent crimes are committed by repeat offenders, the actual number of violent citizens is considerably less than two million.Thus there is a paradox, and we must grasp both ends of the situation: We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence is still remarkably rare. This is because most citizens are kind, decent people who are not capable of hurting each other, except by accident or under extreme provocation. They are sheep.I mean nothing negative by calling them sheep. To me it is like the pretty, blue robin's egg. Inside it is soft and gooey but someday it will grow into something wonderful. But the egg cannot survive without its hard blue shell. Police officers, soldiers, and other warriors are like that shell, and someday the civilization they protect will grow into something wonderful.? For now, though, they need warriors to protect them from the predators."Then there are the wolves," the old war veteran said, "and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy." Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial."Then there are sheepdogs," he went on, "and I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and confront the wolf."If you have no capacity for violence then you are a healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence, and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path. Someone who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia, and walk out unscathedLet me expand on this old soldier's excellent model of the sheep, wolves, and sheepdogs. We know that the sheep live in denial, that is what makes them sheep. They do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids' schools.But many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep's only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the path of denial.The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf. He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and removed. The world cannot work any other way, at least not in a representative democracy or a republic such as ours.Still, the sheepdog disturbs the sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They would prefer that he didn't tell them where to go, or give them traffic tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports in camouflage fatigues holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, "Baa."Until the wolf shows up. Then the entire flock tries desperately to hide behind one lonely sheepdog.The students, the victims, at Columbine High School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer. They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog when the wolf is at the door.Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard on the door. Remember how America, more than ever before, felt differently about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Remember how many times you heard the word hero?Understand that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter: He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze, barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous battle. That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle. The old sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the guns when needed right along with the young ones.Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in America said, "Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes." The sheepdogs, the warriors, said, "Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes. Maybe I could have made a difference." When you are truly transformed into a warrior and have truly invested yourself into warriorhood, you want to be there. You want to be able to make a difference.There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of the population. There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language: slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their victims like big cats do in Africa, when they select one out of the herd that is least able to protect itself.Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was honored in his hometown of Cranbury, New Jersey. Todd, as you recall, was the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When he learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons, Todd dropped his phone and uttered the words, "Let's roll," which authorities believe was a signal to the other passengers to confront the terrorist hijackers. In one hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers - athletes, business people and parents. -- from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of evil men. - Edmund BurkeHere is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep, real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are wolves. They didn't have a choice. But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want to be. It is a conscious, moral decision.If you want to be a sheep, then you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never have rest, safety, trust or love. But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior's path, then you must make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf comes knocking at the door.For example, many officers carry their weapons in church.? They are well concealed in ankle holsters, shoulder holsters or inside-the-belt holsters tucked into the small of their backs.? Anytime you go to some form of religious service, there is a very good chance that a police officer in your congregation is carrying. You will never know if there is such an individual in your place of worship, until the wolf appears to massacre you and your loved ones.I was training a group of police officers in Texas, and during the break, one officer asked his friend if he carried his weapon in church. The other cop replied, "I will never be caught without my gun in church." I asked why he felt so strongly about this, and he told me about a cop he knew who was at a church massacre in Ft. Worth, Texas in 1999. In that incident, a mentally deranged individual came into the church and opened fire, gunning down fourteen people. He said that officer believed he could have saved every life that day if he had been carrying his gun. His own son was shot, and all he could do was throw himself on the boy's body and wait to die. That cop looked me in the eye and said, "Do you have any idea how hard it would be to live with yourself after that?"Some individuals would be horrified if they knew this police officer was carrying a weapon in church. They might call him paranoid and would probably scorn him. Yet these same individuals would be enraged and would call for "heads to roll" if they found out that the airbags in their cars were defective, or that the fire extinguisher and fire sprinklers in their kids' school did not work. They can accept the fact that fires and traffic accidents can happen and that there must be safeguards against them.Their only response to the wolf, though, is denial, and all too often their response to the sheepdog is scorn and disdain. But the sheepdog quietly asks himself, "Do you have and idea how hard it would be to live with yourself if your loved ones attacked and killed, and you had to stand there helplessly because you were unprepared for that day?"It is denial that turns people into sheep. Sheep are psychologically destroyed by combat because their only defense is denial, which is counterproductive and destructive, resulting in fear, helplessness and horror when the wolf shows up.Denial kills you twice. It kills you once, at your moment of truth when you are not physically prepared: you didn't bring your gun, you didn't train. Your only defense was wishful thinking. Hope is not a strategy. Denial kills you a second time because even if you do physically survive, you are psychologically shattered by your fear helplessness and horror at your moment of truth.Gavin de Becker puts it like this in Fear Less, his superb post-9/11 book, which should be required reading for anyone trying to come to terms with our current world situation: "...denial can be seductive, but it has an insidious side effect. For all the peace of mind deniers think they get by saying it isn't so, the fall they take when faced with new violence is all the more unsettling."Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme, a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the denying person knows the truth on some level.And so the warrior must strive to confront denial in all aspects of his life, and prepare himself for the day when evil comes. If you are warrior who is legally authorized to carry a weapon and you step outside without that weapon, then you become a sheep, pretending that the bad man will not come today. No one can be "on" 24/7, for a lifetime. Everyone needs down time. But if you are authorized to carry a weapon, and you walk outside without it, just take a deep breath, and say this to yourself..."Baa."This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the other. Most of us live somewhere in between. Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating their warriors, and the warriors started taking their job more seriously. The degree to which you move up that continuum, away from sheephood and denial, is the degree to which you and your loved ones will survive, physically and psychologically at your moment of truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I've read both "On Killing" and "On Combat", both excellent books from Col. Grossman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Great read, Thanks for sharing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 This was a great read, thanks for sharing. It's a very simple truth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayGun19 Posted October 29, 2011 Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 Sheepdog. To the marrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alelks Posted October 29, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 29, 2011 I just came up with this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 Right along the lines with this one - I think I've posted this here before? <dontknow>It's not mine, but was passed to me in an email.The Gun is CivilizationHuman beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it.In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some. When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220 - pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender.There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly.Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable.When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act.By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madhouse Posted October 30, 2011 Report Share Posted October 30, 2011 That's awesome.I just came up with this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayGun19 Posted October 31, 2011 Report Share Posted October 31, 2011 That needs to be a t-shirt.I just came up with this: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hobbesgunner Posted November 1, 2011 Report Share Posted November 1, 2011 +1!!!! <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 I'll try to be brief as a kid I was a sheep the other kids just beat me up having contracted polio and named Rene I was a cripple with a girls name,had enough of that poop and with alki father that used me for a punching bag became a wolf to the point of wanting to kill my father[being a god fearing catholic is what kept me from acting on my urgess]became a gangbanger the enemy being the westside gangs,I never messed with citizens just those running in the fast lane with me fights were hands,bats,then we made zipguns that would kill you sure as poop then pistols took over.I've been stabbed,shot at,beat up,5 car wreaks,4 bike wreaks,fell 2 stories,married3 times[third time the charm]and wound up with a wife and children and grandchildren that love me took a while to get used to.The change I've seem in people is that they just act on emotion of the second no thought of ramification at all,which is what kept me in check.Male and female wolves react in a kneejerk action to the circumstance and someone winds up dead usually an Innocent person.Now in the fall of my life after having a family I am a sheepdog,I am not the same person I was 30 years ago thanks to my wife.There is no possible reason or excuse to be a predator on the innocents but as you know the majority of crime is one of opportunity.In the past if you disst someone you'd get cracked in the jaw now some lightweight bedwetter that won't say boo will return with a gun and hose the place down.There is no longer any remorse or respect for life that there used to be I lawfully carry for protection of self,family,and the sheep.Excuse my ramble,regrets I can't live like that but I make up for it by flying straight loving and appreciating family and life and the opportunity to correct some stupid things I have done.Quite a few years ago my wife said I should have been a cop,I took it as a compliment thanks for hearing me out.Shoot on bros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted November 20, 2011 Report Share Posted November 20, 2011 is there a 4th option? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 is there a 4th option?Yep, sheepherders. Sheepherders are well-educated crooks that exploit the sheep for their nice warm wool, and try to ever increase their dependency on sheepherders. Sheepherders are responsible for slowly trying to do away with the sheepdogs, because sheepdogs can think for themselves, and don't take kindly to the shepherds tendency to make extremely poor decisions in the name of the well-being of the sheep. Sheepherders can't really do much about wolves, because wolves don't care about law and order or the prevalence of common sense, so the duty falls to the sheepdogs to keep them in check. Sheepherders are also notorious for encouraging wolves to thrive and then scratching their heads in bewilderment when the flock gets attacked. There's days worth of material on politi... I mean 'sheepherders', but it would only depress you. ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alelks Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Yep, sheepherders. Sheepherders are well-educated crooks that exploit the sheep for their nice warm wool, and try to ever increase their dependency on sheepherders. Sheepherders are responsible for slowly trying to do away with the sheepdogs, because sheepdogs can think for themselves, and don't take kindly to the shepherds tendency to make extremely poor decisions in the name of the well-being of the sheep. Sheepherders can't really do much about wolves, because wolves don't care about law and order or the prevalence of common sense, so the duty falls to the sheepdogs to keep them in check. Sheepherders are also notorious for encouraging wolves to thrive and then scratching their heads in bewilderment when the flock gets attacked. There's days worth of material on politi... I mean 'sheepherders', but it would only depress you. ;)Definitely a 4th option and a nice addition. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Definitely a 4th option and a nice addition. :)Thank you sir! I had to stop because my wife was dusting off my soapbox... <dontknow> ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alelks Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 <thumbsup> <thumbsup> <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Right on Matt a very astute observation the 4Th option I think back in the day they were carpetbaggers the exploiters of those who would not claim there independence. I believe due to a lack of intelligence.Jeez you guys are deep.Shoot on bros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alelks Posted November 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Matt,These decals are now available here. Plus download the .pdf file and check lout the last page. :) http://www.atvgraphics.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted November 21, 2011 Report Share Posted November 21, 2011 Matt,These decals are not available here. Plus download the .pdf file and check lout the last page. :) http://www.atvgraphics.org/I love the decal, I just ordered 5 to put on my own vehicles and any friends who want one will be given one and told where they can purchase them. I'm honored to have contributed something useful to your product, and I hope its success will be unsurpassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alelks Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 You'll be pleasantly surprised at the quality of these decals. <thumbsup>Also don't be surprised if our membership spikes in the next few days or so. I posted these on a few of the military facebook and forums I frequent and the reference to 308ar.com at the end of the pdf document will most likely bring some by to check out the site. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Checked out link to decals very cool my cousin Chuck was SF Vietnam started in 68 put in 20 years.Shoot on bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 the sheepherder seems like it could be a sub-catagory to the wolves instead of its own classification. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted November 24, 2011 Report Share Posted November 24, 2011 You got a good point there.Have a good Thanks giving.Shoot on bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herk Posted December 8, 2011 Report Share Posted December 8, 2011 What I've always disliked about the "sheepdog" allusion is that, in the case of the armed Citizen, it is often forgotten or ignored that a big part of the sheepdog's job is terrifying the sheep into "staying in the herd". This aspect is at least as big a part of what defines a sheepdog's job as protecting the herd from wolves. I guess that this is what makes the "sheepdog" allusion work so well for Grossman's target audience (LEOs) but rather imperfect for someone like me: a guy who desires to be left alone not only by "wolves", but also by "sheep" and "sheepdogs". That's how I feel anyway; let the flaming begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted December 9, 2011 Report Share Posted December 9, 2011 im with you Herk. to take it a step further...im the cat sitting in the tree watching the whole scene play out , switching between amusement and total indifference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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