flyfishrman Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I've been reading the other threads and looking at triggers for my LR308 Oracle. I found a decent deal at a local gun shop and bought the gun pretty stock. 18" barrel, collapsable stock, etc. I want to get it dialed in for long range shooting as well as hunting but I need to do it one piece at a time as I'm sure many of you can relate. The main thing that I'm unable to tolerate as far as accuracy is concerned is the trigger. Never have shot a two stage trigger, but my gut tells me single stage may be better for me since this is a hunting rig and that's the style trigger I'm used to in long guns. If you have an opinion let it fly and thanks in advance for your help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Some pretty big cost differences but I prefer the ATC SR Gold. Going to see some recomendations for the Geissele at the same link. If you want to go real cheap Bill Springfield can get your factory trigger in pretty good shape for very cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishrman Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thanks for the reply. Should have specified that I'm not too concerned with price, just looking for a nice smooth, crisp pull for deer hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I once thought that a two stage was not for me , until I put in a Geissele SSA .On my DSG , a Remington 870 mag., I sent the trigger group to Bill Springfield & he did a awesome job right @ 4# trigger . I made a 160 yrd shot through the woods on a nice buck last year , not sure I could have pulled that off with the stock trigger set up .What ever trigger you pick , it will make you a better shooter ,because we know the rifles out shoot most of us & the stock AR trigger sucks ., so its a big improvement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Hi Flyfisherman With my reply ill be puttin on my flamesuit. I just bought another rock river nm match trigger for a total of four on my ar's....and the reason for buying another one is that I plunked down 200 bucks for a sse enhanced Geissele trigger a few months back for a mega ma10 build and guess what? The Geissele was a big letdown...I lined up all my ar's with the rock river triggers and the Geissele and no one could tell one spit of difference in the triggers in a blindfold test.....yes I talked with tech. and yes I did what tech said to do..and yes Mr.Geissele even talked with me....he admitted the rr's were comparable to his,but his would last a heck of a lot longer.....nice..... over twice as much for the same thing...all that ice/glass tube break in the Geissele hype ...I say hoooey! Pick up a rr for 80 bucks <munch> Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgecrusher Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 i like the two stage geissele. i bet with a range session you could find better accuracy with one than a single stage, imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 ...and yes Mr.Geissele even talked with me....he admitted the rr's were comparable to his,but his would last a heck of a lot longer...Wash, those RRA triggers are known to get soft and start messing up, over time. That's all over the 'net, brother. By the time one goes on you, and you replace it with another RRA NM copy, you've spent the same money. When the next RRA goes, you've now lost money... Just sayin'. <dontknow>I go with the guy with the guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onebigelf Posted November 25, 2011 Report Share Posted November 25, 2011 http://shop.tac2.com/product.sc?productId=15I like mine. A lot.John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoot Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 I'm not a rock-n-roller at the range and I hunt with my ARs. I find the RRA NM triggers perfect for my shooting needs in them. On bolt actions, especially ones that rarely go out into the field, I like a lighter trigger as it does impact groups when you're in the sub-MOA groove.I have not worn out an RRA NM trigger group yet, but that's just me. I do hold my lower upside down and brush it out with a flux brush when I clean at the end of a range session, but I wouldn't say I obsess over it. Likewise, I keep mine lubricated with a little Molykote G-n paste as it is a precision device and there is no point in allowing it to wear unduly. A little goes a long way with the paste.In defense of those who run more expensive 2-stage trigger groups. I have never tried one, so I can't say conclusively whether there is a performance difference worth the cost difference. I do know myself though. If I were in a situation that relegated money to not being an issue, I would already have tried every flavor of trigger group out there. Unfortunately, I was born with a plastic spoon in my mouth. ;)Hoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted November 26, 2011 Report Share Posted November 26, 2011 Good point Hoot, everyones needs and applications are different. One of the reasons I like the ATC SR Gold is that it feels familiar, a lot like the aftermarket trigger in my Remington 700 Hvy Varmint 22-250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyfishrman Posted November 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 Thanks for all the replies guys. I actually settled on the Timney trigger set up at 4lbs. I liked that it came as a drop in assembly which should be reasonable for me to put in. Once I get it in I'll post on how it performs. I may actually look into the RRA or even possibly a trigger job for my .556 based on the comments related to those solutions. I appreciate all of the advice. I'm new to this platform and your comments are a huge help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted November 28, 2011 Report Share Posted November 28, 2011 I have a Timney in an AR-15, I like it. Cant beat the install ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterj59 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Geissele SSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I was born with a broken plastic spoon in my mouth got 2 2stage RRA triggers one polished the other isn't the polished one breaks a little nicer, even the stock trigger, for me anyway is OK[i probably don't know any better]defiantly better than the Savage I had.Brother Elf clicked on the trigger link,what is it ? What does it do? Shoot on bro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 I was born with a broken plastic spoon in my mouth ....They're called "SPORKS". When I first moved out on my own I used to stock up on them at whichever fastfood dive I passed on my way home from work. That there is the fine silverware of every new bachelor.I also found that if I ordered an XL pizza, I could finagle about a dozen paper plates. Throw in a Costco package of plastic 'red cups' and I'm set for good. Dishes were done every night. No messy kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoot Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 What the heck, he we go...If you own a matching set of salad bowlsand they all say Cool Whip on the side.You may be a Black Rifle Hoarder! ;)...nextHoot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 So Robo....when your setting the table...does the "spork" go on the left or right of the plate? im cornfused <lmao> Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 Let's not forget the jelly jar glasses for the fancy, fancy.Shoot on bros. <laughs> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moagm316 Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 I have a nickel boron coated spikes battle trigger. It is a really nice single stage trigger. I have been thinking about moving to a two stage for some time and I will definitely do so for the AR10 setup. Any suggestions?The rifle is a 16" lightweight profile Noveske barrel with Nickel boron coated SI Defense upper and lower. I use it as my everything rifle, as it is the only AR that i own right now. I have a bipod and a Larue POD on the rear for use as somewhat of a DMR gun when needed. Fire suit zipped up. It is my SHTF, 3gun, Home Defense rifle. Someday I will get rid of the light profile barrell and go with a Fluted 16" Noveske for the simmilar weight, with more rigidity. BTW the weight on the gun w/o optics is only 6lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unforgiven Posted January 2, 2012 Report Share Posted January 2, 2012 6 lbs. for a .308 :o <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moagm316 Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 5.56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retired JM Posted January 3, 2012 Report Share Posted January 3, 2012 The rifle is a 16" lightweight profile Noveske barrel with Nickel boron coated SI Defense upper and lower. I use it as my everything rifle, as it is the only AR that i own right now. I have a bipod and a Larue POD on the rear for use as somewhat of a DMR gun when needed. Fire suit zipped up. It is my SHTF, 3gun, Home Defense rifle. Someday I will get rid of the light profile barrell and go with a Fluted 16" Noveske for the simmilar weight, with more rigidity. BTW the weight on the gun w/o optics is only 6lbs.No need for a fire suit with me. IMO, 16 inches is the optimum GP barrel length for 5.56- short enough to be handy in short range social situations, but long enough to be useful out to 400m or so.A 16 inch barrel is also a good length for .308, but I consider (IMO, again) 18 inches to be the best for a GP .308 AR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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