98Z5V Posted July 26 Author Report Share Posted July 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted July 27 Report Share Posted July 27 On 7/25/2025 at 6:40 PM, 98Z5V said: Hmmmmm I am old but I think I heard this from my father the 1st time when i was 5 NEVER POINT A GUN AT ANYTHING YOU DO NOT WANT TO KILL! that in my book includes your Package, you Junk, Your Dick and balls! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 28 Author Report Share Posted July 28 Shaun's view on the whole thing - he sold his 320... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNate Posted July 28 Report Share Posted July 28 This is a moral issue. I can't imagine that folks at Sig thought that there was ZERO issue with the gun. There is / was too much "smoke" for there to be no fire. This is the failing that aligns with the current mindset of western business leadership - wherein the only thing that matters is the dollars. They probably did statistical modeling that showed them that the risk-cost to the company of continuing to deny that there was a problem and pay settlements when something happened, were less than the assumed costs of making an admission, which would likely have included impact to their military contracts. Honor is dead in most publicly held western companies. Their fear of the Wall Street analysts and shareholders is greater than their desire to do the right thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 29 Author Report Share Posted July 29 I saw this original video last night, and didn't post it here. Felt like I was beating up in SIG too much, just let it go. Well, it's all out in the open tonight, from Valhalla VFT... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 29 Author Report Share Posted July 29 I've been waiting for him to say something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 29 Author Report Share Posted July 29 Criss-Cross Applesauce... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sketch Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 https://youtu.be/8xgTRigFvOE?si=Dxllw5ErScCBKUCQ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 7 hours ago, sketch said: https://youtu.be/8xgTRigFvOE?si=Dxllw5ErScCBKUCQ Good video....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterrex Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNate Posted July 30 Report Share Posted July 30 Brandon Herrera's Meme Review focused on it this week... One of the best meme based suggestions was to put the president of Sig in a locked room... cut a hole in the ceiling, and start dropping loaded P320's through the hole until he cops to the issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 Instead of finding their balls, grabbing them HARD, and owning up to this, in light of all the rapidly mounting evidence - they do some shiit like this... Unreal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 More info on the real problem here - that's been ignored by the manufacturer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 31 Author Report Share Posted July 31 Done deal. Nothing explains this situation better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 1 Author Report Share Posted August 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 1 Author Report Share Posted August 1 IDPA banned the 320. This isn't a video, blog, commentary - this is IDPA's own website... https://www.idpa.com/important-announcement-from-idpa/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 the take up on the trigger (taking out the slack, hitting the firing wall), completely disengages the striker safety. Proven right here. That shouldn't happen. This is just Issue #1 with this gun - this has absolutely NOTHING to do with manipulating the slide side-to-side, and setting it off on it's own. This is simply a test of the striker safety. Only. The striker safety is COMPLETELY disengaged, just with taking up the wall, taking up the slack in the trigger. No Bueno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 2 Author Report Share Posted August 2 This is one of the best vids I've seen on this whole debacle. Detailed information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magwa Posted August 2 Report Share Posted August 2 That is a great video and shows just what greed can do over honor and quality control.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 On 7/28/2025 at 12:15 PM, BigNate said: This is a moral issue. I can't imagine that folks at Sig thought that there was ZERO issue with the gun. There is / was too much "smoke" for there to be no fire. This is the failing that aligns with the current mindset of western business leadership - wherein the only thing that matters is the dollars. They probably did statistical modeling that showed them that the risk-cost to the company of continuing to deny that there was a problem and pay settlements when something happened, were less than the assumed costs of making an admission, which would likely have included impact to their military contracts. Honor is dead in most publicly held western companies. Their fear of the Wall Street analysts and shareholders is greater than their desire to do the right thing. Truth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff300 Posted August 3 Report Share Posted August 3 Watched a couple of these this morning while having coffee, I thought the same @BigNate was spot on with his comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 4 Author Report Share Posted August 4 Liberty Doll nails it. I'd marry her tomorrow... 😍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 This one will be explosive... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted August 5 Author Report Share Posted August 5 Here's that doc referenced in the vid ^^^ above... SIG 320 Doc gov.uscourts.ctd.150506.202.1_UNREDACTED.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunuckgaucho Posted August 5 Report Share Posted August 5 On 7/28/2025 at 10:15 AM, BigNate said: This is a moral issue. I can't imagine that folks at Sig thought that there was ZERO issue with the gun. There is / was too much "smoke" for there to be no fire. This is the failing that aligns with the current mindset of western business leadership - wherein the only thing that matters is the dollars. They probably did statistical modeling that showed them that the risk-cost to the company of continuing to deny that there was a problem and pay settlements when something happened, were less than the assumed costs of making an admission, which would likely have included impact to their military contracts. Honor is dead in most publicly held western companies. Their fear of the Wall Street analysts and shareholders is greater than their desire to do the right thing. On 8/2/2025 at 7:26 AM, Magwa said: That is a great video and shows just what greed can do over honor and quality control.... Probably one of the best know examples of this was the Ford Pinto. Of course with no internet it took a while for non industry types and the media to see a pattern. Once Ford saw the problem there was a look at cost to fix vs coast to deal with court cases/payouts... guess which one they chose? The other thing driving their decision was Ford promised to deliver a car that was under 2000lbs and inder $2000. Sig Sauer( Swiss company,German company and US company) are all seperate entities owned by the same holding company. While they do work closely together for legal,tax and other reasons they are on paper three seperate companies. People are placed by L&O Holdings for the sole purpose of making money for the partners and share holders. The brand only has value to the holding company based on sales. If the Sig Sauer brand fails the holding company will buy another name, use that and simply transfer all the plants,tooling etc to the new name. Back in 2019 executives where given suspended sentances and the company paid huge fines( not the executives) for illegally selling pistols to the Columbian government. Basically the pistols were produced by the German group which couldn't get and end user certificate for the sale to Columbia. So the pistols were sent to the US group that then forward them to Columbia. They only got caught 'cause someone blew the whiste on them. Holding companies like this are the corparate equivelent of clearcutting a forest with no concern to replanting. Which is why they will never admit fault on their part. For them it's better to let it burn to the ground and have another part of the holding company buy the assests for pennies on the dollar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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