Lar 308 Predator HP ammo question

[12ptdroptine]

Ok Back from Alaska and setting up my predator Hp. What are you guys finding off the shelf for accuracy? I hav a handfull of assorted ammo. But I am sure there is one that stands above for most. And what kind of groups are you getting at 100---200---300---yds?  got the scope( Leupold 3.5 X 10 VXIII) mounted up the other night . Have to boresite it yet . Gonna try to get it out to the range next weekend for a few rounds to settle it in.

Thanks Drop

[Hoot]

Hornady match 308 with the 168gr Amax bullet shoots 5-shot, 100 yard groups around .6 inches, as in one enlarged hole at 100 yards from a benchrest setup and my Predator HP. I have not shot it on a longer range.

Hoot

[12ptdroptine]

any others

[unforgiven]

With the Lar-8 20"HBAR factory is good [i'm the problem]German mil-surp Dag/Men like alot, Belguim 147 poop or are censors gonna call it caca. <lmao> <laughs>

[12ptdroptine]

Well it didn't like the American eagle or the Winchester 150grn ...both. So after being advised I took a chance on federal gold match 168gr smkbthp.... Hope this works. A few ppl say this is the industry standard for testing accuracy. Hope so. I have 5boxes on hold till I can go get them....and 10ordered mail order. Ahe American eagle was better than the Winchester...about 2inches at 100yds. The Winchester was closer to 3inches at 100yds. Gotta drive 5hrs round trip to go get 5boxes on sat...dial this thing in for a early jan hog hunt. Wish me luck. I am sure this ammo will shoot. Might even order a couple hundred more rounds... Drop

[Matt.Cross]

Well it didn't like the American eagle or the Winchester 150grn ...both. So after being advised I took a chance on federal gold match 168gr smkbthp.... Hope this works. A few ppl say this is the industry standard for testing accuracy. Hope so. I have 5boxes on hold till I can go get them....and 10ordered mail order. Ahe American eagle was better than the Winchester...about 2inches at 100yds. The Winchester was closer to 3inches at 100yds. Gotta drive 5hrs round trip to go get 5boxes on sat...dial this thing in for a early jan hog hunt. Wish me luck. I am sure this ammo will shoot. Might even order a couple hundred more rounds... Drop

Gold Medal Match is indeed the gold standard. When I first started shooting, I was getting errant results as to whom/what was responsible for my inconsistent shot placement. I quit buying cheapo ammo @ Walmart and started buying FGMM, and I eliminated the ammo entirely from the equation. Now I'm shooting much better, and starting to experiment with different match ammunition from various manufacturers.

[planeflyer21]

I don't have a Predator but both of my Operators (16" and a 20") seem to prefer heavier bullet weights.

Not shooting for groups, the 147gr and 150gr also require a different POA to hit the same spots that the 175gr and 189gr bullets are impacting.

Getting ready to do a heavy bullet showdown, reloading pills from 190gr up to 210gr, all the same brass and primers so it will be an even playing field.

Jon

[12ptdroptine]

Got a hundred on hold 2.5 hours away till I can get to them and I have 400more on back order.... Sure do hope these work out. If not just have to sell them imguess <lmao>

[12ptdroptine]

<thumbsup> Well these seem to be the ticket... I shot 6 groups .. all 3/4 inch and a little under for a couple @ 100 yds. 1 group of 13/8 @ 200 yds. Got 11 boxes Sat.. and backordered 20 more for $20 a box on sale. sale ended the 28th but they honored the price ;D me be cheezin ;D

[edgecrusher]

very nice, I find it the way to go myself

[12ptdroptine]

Just got 3 boxes of 165 of the BTSP. specs and  the tech at Sierra say they shoot very close to eachother. Taking it on a Hog Hunt in Texas in about 3 weeks. was concerned about expansion on the hollow points. Called Sierra  and the tech told me they were never designed for hunting applications. Knew that but bought 600 anyway. Tech said they had reports of everything from fantastic to dismal failures with the HP hunting. I know shot placement is crucial and always has been in my book. So off to the range next weekend to finish dialing it in. Went to the country with it Thursday night to try out my new Varmint light.. VRL 1.... and a Leupold 4x12 firedot <thumbsup> <thumbsup> <thumbsup> I could make out the treeline at 200 yds... Would not hesitate to take a shot on a yote at 100 yds. I think even 150 would be acceptable ... hear some say 200 is doable. But not sure yet for myself. Thinking If I may ...go to the range during Christmas break at night ... and try some shots at 50...100... and maybe 200 yds...This would tell the tale

Drop

[Spaniky73]

I shot a box of Mil 7.62x51 175gr hpbt. They shot a .7 at 100 yards indoors off a bench rest.

[98Z5V]

I shot a box of Mil 7.62x51 175gr hpbt. They shot a .7 at 100 yards indoors off a bench rest.

If that was actually the .mil issue ammo, then it was M118LR ammunition.  <thumbsup>

[Spaniky73]

If that was actually the .mil issue ammo, then it was M118LR ammunition.  <thumbsup>

It was M118. Got it from a retired SEAL sniper instructor. I didn't ask where he got them.

[98Z5V]

That's good stuff, brother.  <thumbsup>

[Spaniky73]

I shot a 1.0 10 round group with Wolf ammo on Saturday.

[unforgiven]

Great shooting with that ammo brother Spaniky.Any problems feeding or ejecting? Do you clean the rifle differently after using that ammo?Have a safe New Years. <thumbsup>

[Spaniky73]

0 feed or ejection issues. Only issue cleaning it was the carbon build up in the BCG. Had to scrape it off. But that was almost 150 rounds down range.

[12ptdroptine]

Well... I took the old girl down to Texas on a wild hog hunt. I used the 165 http. And Anchored one in its. Tracks at 30 yds. Yeah I know 30yds. She dropped right there. Hit the back the left front shoulder. Clear through both shoulders and took out both lungs..likes I said she dropped in her tracks... Big old sow...weighed 240lbs. Love that federal ammo <thumbsup>

[phoenix27]

Hornady match 308 with the 168gr Amax bullet shoots 5-shot, 100 yard groups around .6 inches, as in one enlarged hole at 100 yards from a benchrest setup and my Predator HP. I have not shot it on a longer range.

Hoot

I was getting similar results with the Hornady ZombieMax, which are essentially the same projectiles/brass in a different box. I had a 3-shot group at less than 0.4" and consistent 5-shot groups between 0.6"-to-0.8" with a RRA 20" Predator Upper and a Meopta 4-12x50 scope.

[shibiwan]

Not an LAR but great 200 yard results - CMMG MK3 with FGMM 175gr SMK HPBT.   Grouping was OK but found that the barrel nut was working loose leading to inconsistency....

 

 

The heavy bullets definitely help!

Edited November 2, 2013 by shibiwan

[unforgiven]

Good shooting brother.

[Libertarian623]

Best I have found so far off the shelf  for my LAR-8 26" is Winchester 168gr silver tips, puts 5 rounds into .5 moa every time. I have found that anything with a tangent ogive shoots great, typically under .75 moa. For hunting the old nosler partition 180gr in federal premium is a ripper but still very accurate. In fact during the ammo shortage last summer I used factory hunting ammo with this bullet to shoot a precision steel match out to 650-700 yrds. Everybody thought it was a giggle until I nailed the opening cold bore shot , 375yards on a three inch disk. 

Edited February 12, 2014 by Libertarian623