Dane Armory Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Before you buy your press. Take a drive north on the 101 to Frank Llyod Wright Blvd just past the north runway to Dillions showroom and look at their product ! I get a lot of my supplies there. Taste the kool-aid ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Before you buy your press. Take a drive north on the 101 to Frank Llyod Wright Blvd just past the north runway to Dillions showroom and look at their product ! I get a lot of my supplies there. Taste the kool-aid ! There's a little voice in my head that's telling me not to go there because I'll be broke when I walk out of the place.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 (edited) Shibi go here and take a look http://ultimatereloader.com everything bout reloaders and loading Wash Edited November 13, 2013 by washguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 13, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Shibi go here and take a look http://ultimatereloader.com everything bout reloaders and loading Wash That was a good read. I just picked up a box of 100 Sierra SMK 175gr and a set of dies (Lee Pacesetter with the separate factory crimp die) at lunch from Bass Pro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas30cal Posted November 13, 2013 Report Share Posted November 13, 2013 Ditto for what has been said, rcbs kit to learn and keep using over time, then Dillon 550, absolutely love the Dillon, no complaints, as stated customer service is second to none, and don't worry about the rcbs being a waste you will still need just about all of that stuff anyway. My 308 reloads out of the Dillon vs. single stage I cannot tell any difference in accuracy, they are both better than I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Gonna stop this single/progressive thing right now! Picked up the Hornady L&L AP from Sportsman's after work. So there. Good price too, especially considering they're having a 0% tax week. At $439.99 and 0 tax, the price was better than Amazon+tax ($443) !! ....and I blame Wash for enabling... P.S. Since when did amazon start charging tax..... Edited November 14, 2013 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Aawww crap!! Forgot about the tax free sale!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Amazon tax is on a state by state basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Shibi Way to go! go to you tube theres the guy that has a bunch of vids on the locknload....download the rebate for your bullets....lemme know how it goes.....what caliber first? be sure and get xtra quick change bushings ill prolly get mine next week.....lol.....ill take the blame :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Aawww crap!! Forgot about the tax free sale!! HURRY!!! Ends Sunday! Amazon probably started taxing us in AZ because they have a distribution center in town...but I don't recall them applying sales tax last year! I'm already polishing my brass on the mid-size tumbler that I "stole" from my shop....now for the next phase - how to set it up stealth-like so the wife no yell at me for spending more $. Edited November 14, 2013 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Here in CT they started collecting taxes November 1. Looks like AZ was effective Feb 1 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Shibi Way to go! go to you tube theres the guy that has a bunch of vids on the locknload....download the rebate for your bullets....lemme know how it goes.....what caliber first? be sure and get xtra quick change bushings ill prolly get mine next week.....lol.....ill take the blame :) Wash Yeah, already compared the vids of the RCBS 2000, the Hornady AP and the Dillon (they really piecemeal that one - didn't like that too much). 308's are first of course! Probably followed by 5.56 and 9mm luger. OK gotta question... are primers generally interchangeable? CCI 200/BR2? Federal 210? Winchester WLR? Powder wise I'm probably going with Varget or CFE223 depending on what I can find in stock. They seem to hide all the powders somewhere in the stores... can't find any on the shelves. LOL Edited November 14, 2013 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imschur Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Hornady has been constantly improving their progressive. They for sure are going after the mid priced Dillon. Hornady would be my choice. Of course I would have dedicated presses for 556,308 and .45 because Im lazy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripledeuce Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Primers Are the same sizes, but aren't really interchanable if you have a good load worked up. Built a 218 bee one time, on a small martini. Couldn't get better than 1.5". Changed primers, everything else the same, 3/4" group. This also holds true with other componets. All brass is not the same, not only between mfgs, but withen different lots of brass. Powder can change dramaticly from lot to lot. Some powders are even affected by temp! Loaded up 100 rds or 6.5 Grendal for the wife. 50 got left in her Jeep over the winter, the other 50 were in the house. Come sprin, and checking out the rifle, you didn't need a chrono to tell the difference! You could hear,feel, and see the difference in the loads. Loading is fun! But you have a LOT of reading to do!LOL!! Respectfully Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Shibi, if you're a 5.56 guy, just make damn sure you separate your 223 Rem brass from your 5.56 NATO brass. Don't start loading them both the same. I run CCI 400 primers in my 223 Rem brass and CCI 41 primers in my 5.56 brass, in addition to the different powder charges. You'll have to develop a load that works well from your 5.56 guns for each of those types of brass. If you drop a good 223 Rem powder charge in a 5.56 NATO case, that 5.56 case WILL have a higher chamber pressure. I would have voted single stage, but I got into this thread too late... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dane Armory Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Nice score on the Hornady press. Justed looked at the Dillion catalog and the RL550 is $439.95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Gonna stop this single/progressive thing right now! Picked up the Hornady L&L AP from Sportsman's after work. So there. Ha ha ha. Another life is now wasting away in the reloading room. You think the costs are exhorbitant for AR308s? Wait until you have 17 different powders, 10 different bullets, a dozen different primers and some manuals to pour over. It never ends! <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seasprite Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Welcome to the world of reloading shibi. <thumbsup> For me it has become an addiction of sorts so look out. And yea it would be nice if the powder would come back around the only place I was able to find mine(CFE223) was at the gun show and they had it marked up about $30.00 for an 8 lbs. keg but it was available so good luck in finding powder brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Shibi, if you're a 5.56 guy, just make damn sure you separate your 223 Rem brass from your 5.56 NATO brass. Don't start loading them both the same. I run CCI 400 primers in my 223 Rem brass and CCI 41 primers in my 5.56 brass, in addition to the different powder charges. You'll have to develop a load that works well from your 5.56 guns for each of those types of brass. If you drop a good 223 Rem powder charge in a 5.56 NATO case, that 5.56 case WILL have a higher chamber pressure. I would have voted single stage, but I got into this thread too late... I'm primarily 308. Screw the 5.56 - that's what I take to the range for the kids to shoot. I'll probably put in a light load in them to minimize the recoil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
planeflyer21 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 From another forum... "Congratulations on starting to reload! Between trips to the range, reloading, and pouring over reloading manuals, your brain will soon be mush and good for little else." PapaJohn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Crap... the big stores all don't have any powder in stock... I'll have to look around. From another forum... "Congratulations on starting to reload! Between trips to the range, reloading, and pouring over reloading manuals, your brain will soon be mush and good for little else." PapaJohn Too late now. :( Edited November 14, 2013 by shibiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justintoxicated Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) I'm primarily 308. Screw the 5.56 - that's what I take to the range for the kids to shoot. I'll probably put in a light load in them to minimize the recoil. Too bad, at 100 yards my 5.56 AR is nearly as accurate as my 308 (sub MOA) when I reload 223 with SMKs or nosler 77gr. As far as separating brass for 5.56 and 223 my load seems to work for both about the same using BLC2. I just sort by headstamp to have more consistent groups, but the I didn't find much difference in m accuracy load. For 308 on the other hand, definitely develop a load for each kind of brass. Edited November 14, 2013 by Justintoxicated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MONTANA308 Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Now we are talking!!! i have lock and load ammo plant and a hornady single stage spend just about all my time on the single stage. For pistols think id drink the coolaid and go with a dillon set up for 45acp. Knock out 223 on AP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shibiwan Posted November 14, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 Too bad, at 100 yards my 5.56 AR is nearly as accurate as my 308 (sub MOA) when I reload 223 with SMKs or nosler 77gr. As far as separating brass for 5.56 and 223 my load seems to work for both about the same using BLC2. I just sort by headstamp to have more consistent groups, but the I didn't find much difference in m accuracy load. For 308 on the other hand, definitely develop a load for each kind of brass. I'm just burnt out on 5.56... especially after the military, even though it's been over 20 years.... LOL Scored 2 lbs of CFE223 and one lbs IMR4064!. Let the fun begin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted November 14, 2013 Report Share Posted November 14, 2013 The priming system on the Hornady Lock- N-Load AP is a tube fed system which can hold 100 primers at a time. This system uses a primer slider which picks up primers on- demand. Therefore, if you constantly cycle the press, you will not be “overflowing” primers into a collector like you would on some other presses such as the Dillon XL-650. The Hornady Lock-N-Load AP priming system is also a safe design. When primers are being picked up, they cannot be crushed because the only force acting on the slider is a spring. Another safety feature for the Hornady Lock- N-Load AP is the separation distance between the primer being inserted in the case and the stack of primers in the primer tube. If a primer were to go off while being inserted into a case, it would be far enough from the other primers to prevent the whole tube from going off. Be careful you blue kool aid boys ...:) Good selection Shibi ....cant wait for mine...so I assume the Hornady is so safe you can smoke a cigar while reloading? :) Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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