glass recommendation

[D.R.D.]

The Vortex's recommend to far or this one:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P50716.aspx

I have that Primary Arms 4-14x44.  Great high-end of the cheap-ass scopes.  Don't know if I'd feel comfortable with it on anything with more recoil than a 223.  I have it on a .22lr.  Works great as a trainer, though (crappy eye-relief and mushy turret clicks, but it works and its clear)

 

Read:

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=91

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=476

 

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2013/12/22/best-rifle-scope-what-the-pros-use/

http://precisionrifleblog.com/

[StainTrain]

The Vortex's recommend to far or this one:

http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-3-9x42-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P50716.aspx

I have that Primary Arms 4-14x44.  Great high-end of the cheap-ass scopes.  Don't know if I'd feel comfortable with it on anything with more recoil than a 223.  I have it on a .22lr.  Works great as a trainer, though (crappy eye-relief and mushy turret clicks, but it works and its clear)

 

Read:

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=91

http://opticsthoughts.com/?page_id=476

 

http://precisionrifleblog.com/2013/12/22/best-rifle-scope-what-the-pros-use/

http://precisionrifleblog.com/

Yes.  The eye relief on the PA leaves a lot to be desired.  The thing that I liked about it was the reticle subtended correctly and as DRD said, the glass is better than most in that price range.  The Burris Fullfield E1 is clear as well, but I am not sold on the E1 reticle. 

[Cali_Ed]

After reading some of that article I think I would want an all around piece of glass not all my shots are going to be at a very far distance

[shibiwan]

This Bushnell 1-4x24mm FFP is a very good general purpose scope for under $200. You can't find any other illuminated FFP scope at that price. Bear in mind that this is meant for CQB/mid-range use.

 

I've got one of them on my 300 BLK

 

Amazon: $199.99

http://www.amazon.com/Bushnell-Illuminated-Reticle-Riflescope-Turrets/dp/B00AU6EIIY/ref=pd_sim_sg_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=0TNPBYR1VCM0A97B1XM6

Edited May 31, 2014 by shibiwan

[survivalshop]

Now, you are talking about buying Back-Up Iron Sights which will cost you a minimum of $90 for a quality set.....that could be $90 you could add to your already $500 budget.  You know you want it scoped so don't throw money away on other sighting systems that you kinda don't want.  That is going to kill your funds that you could use to purchase better glass. 

 

  He wants to shoot while he makes up his mind ( see his post # 13 ), its why BUIS was even mentioned. Good idea to get used to the rifle with Irons until he picks the right scope, good practice . Iron sights or BUIS/MBUS are always good to keep practiced at , as you know , of course.  <thumbsup>

[StainTrain]

I agree 100%. I read that. I was under the impression he had $500 to spend from his original post. My suggestion was to put that money he was going to spend on the iron sights with that $500 (or $410) bucks he has budgeted and get a scope.

Everyone should learn to shoot with irons.

[gnatshooter]

Everyone should learn to shoot with irons.

 

That's a good point, besides being a good point by itself. But you have to wonder, who did not get that BB gun, and then that pellet rifle, and then that .22... or at least, step into that progression somewhere as a child.

 

Are there lots of guys that didn't start shooting BBs at the age of 5 and just, as adults, walked straight into shooting the big stuff?

[Cali_Ed]

Bb guns, sling shots, cross bow, 9mm, shotgun, 45 ,556 here haha

That vortex viper and swfa look very tempting hmm

What do ypu guys recommend for some solid mounts/rings?

Edited June 1, 2014 by Cali_Ed

[StainTrain]

ADM, GDI, Bobro.....and well, LaRue.   

Edited June 1, 2014 by StainTrain

[Cali_Ed]

Ran across this on optics planet http://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnell-legend-ultra-hd-4-5-14x44mm-rifle-scope.html

[StainTrain]

Ran across this on optics planet http://www.opticsplanet.com/bushnell-legend-ultra-hd-4-5-14x44mm-rifle-scope.html

Nice.  Bushnell has a good warranty.  

[Cali_Ed]

http://www.opticsplanet.com/redfield-revenge-6-18x44mm-rifle-scope.html

IA it's between the Bushnell and this redfield. My mate tells me redfield uses Leopold glass?

[StainTrain]

You get the mid-dot reticle with Bushnell.  The Leupold glass in the redfield may be the equivalent to the Rifleman or VX-1, but it is not the Leupold glass in the VX-R or VX-3.....and no where near the Mark 4, 6, or 8.

 

You are in a certain price point and regardless of who makes the scope, they are not going to invest in the same glass, coatings, and seals as they do their higher end lines.   In that range, some are better than other, but only slightly.  

 

All the ones you have asked about have good warranties and are solid companies. 

Edited June 1, 2014 by StainTrain

[Cali_Ed]

Thanks brothers!

[shibiwan]

Burris PEPR - the 30mm QD version was on sale at PSA for $60 over the memorial day weekend. Picked up one but felt I should have picked up another (and would have gladly sold the extra to you).

Edited June 1, 2014 by shibiwan

[Cali_Ed]

I want to buy the mbus pro for that sweet price but I've read psa shipping is painfully slow. I'm to impatient I'll go crazy checking the status and tracking

[shibiwan]

I want to buy the mbus pro for that sweet price but I've read psa shipping is painfully slow. I'm to impatient I'll go crazy checking the status and tracking

 

You can hassle them and they usually ship almost instantly (the day after you pester them).

 

On a related note, I put in 2 separate orders over memorial day from PSA. One of them (the Burris PEPR) shipped out immediately on Tuesday while the other order (PWS FSC30 + NiB BCG) is still "processing". Go figure.

Edited June 1, 2014 by shibiwan

[BLKSHEEP]

On Sale & has a 30mm tube which will give you more elevation adjustment then the 1" tubes.

 

http://www.cabelas.com/catalog/product.jsp?productId=1394449&type=product&MDK=dynbanP_DOs&MDC=cat104535180&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104752080%3BMCcat104535180

 

or this...

http://www.cabelas.com/product/Shooting/Optics/Riflescopes%7C/pc/104792580/c/104752080/sc/104535180/Nikon-M-308-Riflescope/1383828.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fbrowse%2Friflescopes%2Fnikon%2F_%2FN-1100246%2B1000004133%2FNe-1000004133%2FNs-CATEGORY_SEQ_104535180%3FWTz_l%3DSBC%253BMMcat104792580%253Bcat104752080%26WTz_st%3DGuidedNav%26WTz_stype%3DGNU&WTz_l=SBC%3BMMcat104792580%3Bcat104752080%3Bcat104535180

 

 

 

[shibiwan]

I had the Nikon 308. It was OK but I wasn't completely satisfied with it. Didnt like the BDC reticle, exit pupil size on it. Returned it to Cabelas and got the Vortex Viper PST 6-24x50 FFP MRAD instead. Only thing going for the M-308 is the 20 MOA mount but that mount had issues of its own.

 

Can't go wrong with the Vortex Viper, really. It comes with almost all the bells and whistles found on higher end scopes.

[FaRKle!]

Excuse my ignorance but is there 308 specific buis?

Nope. They're all the same.

[Cali_Ed]

I decided I'm not going to be a cheap jew(no offense) and get the vortex hst or pst I'm digging that zero stop feature

[StainTrain]

Unless you need/want illumination, the HS-T will serve you well. . 

[Cali_Ed]

For 659 it ain't bad plus I like the zero stop function.

They had the 4-16 model at my legs for 556. You guys think there would be a huge difference with the 6-24?

Edited June 1, 2014 by Cali_Ed

[Microgunner]

Yeah. The 6-24X has 50% more magnification.

That's substantial.

[StainTrain]

Are you going to hunt?