It is unfortunate that these adult children can't get it together. At least they have someone who cares but in the end you have to do for yourself. No one can do it for them. I wasn't fortunate to have a real father as mine was a miserable drunk. I left the house right after finishing highschool. What could go wrong? The train jumps the tracks in the company one chooses. I choose to go with the other losers in my group. Pissed away a good 10 years of my life saw a lot of young people proceed me in death. The route was Browns funeral home followed by St. Mary's cemetery. Having a fatalistic view of life I had no respect for myself and less for anyone else. But for all my faults one thing I always did was work. Fast life is a short life, met my wife at 28 she had a 13 year old daughter so I had to change my ways. I did so because I wanted to. I needed to because it was not going to end well even I could see it. Developing a family was the best thing that ever happened to me. Living like regular people without all the drama was and is really great. I am very fortunate that the cycle of $hit ended with me. If I could do it anybody can you you just have to want it. If you're not all you can be you have no one to blame but the reflection in the mirror. I blame no one it was all me I have always taken responsibility for my behavior. I have always been an open book here. Good luck hope these guys turn it around.