Matt.Cross

I see the engineer wasn't paying attention during the parallel parking training.

I think alligator tastes more like liger taint than rattlesnake, but that's just me. Could've been the marinade.

It's pretty good, tastes a lot like Toucan actually.

Easy enough to make this mistake, but there's an easy solution. Thread your brake onto your muzzle and make note of the final position of the brake. Let's call the correct timing of the brake the 12:00 position. Now you need to assess the approximate amount of rotation you need to get to 12:00, maybe you're at ~2:00 and need a lot of rotation, or you might be at 10:00 and only need a little. There's some math involved, but it's not hard, it's based on how many threads per inch your muzzle threads are. So for 5/8-24 threads, 24 threads per inch, that's .0416 pitch. Meaning that 360 degrees of rotation in your muzzle device is .0416" of travel. To determine what thickness your peel washer needs to be, divide 360 by the number of degrees of rotation needed, and then divide .0416 by that number. This final number is the thickness needed. Example: Muzzle device is halfway between 10:00 and 11:00, you need 45° rotation. 360 ÷ 45 = 8 0.0146 ÷ 8 = .0018 So, .002" will give you ~45° rotation. Now you know how to determine the shim thickness needed to time a muzzle device.

Like what, a gunsmith? Newsflash, the precision shim is NOT more precise than the peel washer. You know why? The peel washer is a laminated series of precision shims. *Mind blown*

This may surprise you, but I'm a Machinist, Tool and Die Maker by trade. I'm intimately familiar with precision shims, how they're sourced, how they're made, how they function, and what is necessary for them to function correctly/ideally. Everything you have mentioned so far comes at substantial cost to a manufacturer; locating a manufacturer, choosing a suitable material, developing a manufacturing strategy, QC constraints, developing a solid and reliable business relationship, the list goes on and on. All that cost has to be recovered in the sales of product.

So what? Hypothetically there's not much that isn't possible... ... but if you've got even a miniscule amount of common sense, you're not going to put McMaster-Carr 18-8 stainless washers behind your muzzle device between a 416 SS muzzle device and a even higher-grade SS barrel, or other differential metals.

Here you go: Where's the $4 kit?

Not really so much as just busting your balls about not needing them if you had peel washers.

I'm well aware of that. How many companies that are not suppressor or muzzle device manufacturers are selling precision timing shim kits? I'm aware of none. Therefore in order to accommodate your preference, there's a problem of procuring and paying for precision shim kits. Since they aren't going to source them from their competitors, they don't necessarily come at the same cost or from the same source. Therefore it's not as simple as including the $4 shim kits with the $1000+ muzzle devices, is it? So once we know where you would source your theoretical $4 shim kits from, besides competing companies naturally, we would be better informed as to how reasonable such a demand is...

So much for exhibit A. No, you would've been advised within moments of being given any bad advice here. Ball busting aside, we really do care about people being able to come here and find sound advice. That'll do it for exhibit B. So Brownell's swallowed the shipping cost. Fantastic! Wanna bet their shipping cost for the item was less than $4? I wouldn't take that bet, but that's just me.

This is a Thunder Beast Brake & Suppressor combo right? GEMTECH is a competitor to Thunder beast, so it doesn't make a lot of business sense to put money into a competitor's products (like spacers) regardless of their cost, especially when there's a more economical way to approach the same problem that works equally well. It's in GEMTECH's best interests to say, "No, those peel washers are utter crap, buy our far superior precision spacers instead!". Whether or not you want to buy into the marketing hype is fine. Just don't get too wound up when the folks that know better shake their heads and giggle at you.

Call Ghostbusters since we're already in the delusional realm. Seriously, you passed up the solution that came at no charge with your brake, which works by the way; and now you want to know why the frivolity that costs more to ship than the actual product value isn't a better solution? Where to begin....

The short answer is that profits are in the margins, in conjunction with the fact that peel washers work just fine when they're installed correctly.

That's hilarious Doc!

Many thanks brother.

Link?

That's. What. She. Said.

It's very commonly misused, most folks don't care until the differences between the manufacturers bites them in their nether regions. Only Armalite makes an AR-10.

Tom and myself both need to be able to update this. I'll keep it uncluttered, should any foolhardy souls dare contaminate Tom's thread with unnecessary BS.

If you have ANY QUESTIONS, ask them now in the Fall Shoot thread. What gear you will need for which shoots, etc. What you need to bring bare minimum regardless: Pillow, sleeping bag, pocket knife/multitool, bug spray, sunblock, spare mags for every gun you bring, portable liquid container(s) for hydration, OWB holster if you bring your pistol, flashlight/weapon light, spare contacts if you wear them, eye rinsing kit, sunglasses, ball cap or other suitable hat, camp chairs if ya got 'em, scope caps are always a good idea (sand & optics aren't an ideal mix), whatever prescription meds you need. I'll think of more as the thread wears on....

Tungsten, Carbide, Steel, Aluminum, Plastic.... The insert possibilities are endless, the housing necessarily needs to be machinable, but there's also many possibilities there.

If there's a lot of interest in this, I'll go ahead and make a batch of them. I just need numbers for how many everyone wants.

Long answer short, yes. It's basically a housing that carries different weight inserts. You can use the housing by itself, or in conjunction with inserts of various types and weights.

@850 yards, 1 MOA = ~8.9 inches not 8.5 Additionally, mean average spread for stated groups were witnessed to be <6" to which is approximately 2/3rds MOA. Saying "under 1 MOA" doesn't imply hit-and-miss MOA accuracy, it implies some humility on the part of the claimant. Wind is a variable that speaks nothing to mechanical accuracy, only the maximum potential POI shift for a given wind speed.