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Greg, you have no idea how happy that makes me... <thumbsup> ;D

I damn near lost my eyesight today - forgot my sunglasses when I went to work... <dontknow> <lmao>

Right along the lines with this one - I think I've posted this here before? <dontknow> It's not mine, but was passed to me in an email. The Gun is Civilization Human beings only have two ways to deal with one another: reason and force. If you want me to do something for you, you have a choice of either convincing me via argument, or force me to do your bidding under threat of force. Every human interaction falls into one of those two categories, without exception. Reason or force, that's it. In a truly moral and civilized society, people exclusively interact through persuasion. Force has no place as a valid method of social interaction, and the only thing that removes force from the menu is the personal firearm, as paradoxical as it may sound to some. When I carry a gun, you cannot deal with me by force. You have to use reason and try to persuade me, because I have a way to negate your threat or employment of force. The gun is the only personal weapon that puts a 100-pound woman on equal footing with a 220 - pound mugger, a 75-year old retiree on equal footing with a 19-year old gang banger, and a single guy on equal footing with a carload of drunk guys with baseball bats. The gun removes the disparity in physical strength, size, or numbers between a potential attacker and a defender. There are plenty of people who consider the gun as the source of bad force equations. These are the people who think that we'd be more civilized if all guns were removed from society, because a firearm makes it easier for a [armed] mugger to do his job. That, of course, is only true if the mugger's potential victims are mostly disarmed either by choice or by legislative fiat--it has no validity when most of a mugger's potential marks are armed. People who argue for the banning of arms ask for automatic rule by the young, the strong, and the many, and that's the exact opposite of a civilized society. A mugger, even an armed one, can only make a successful living in a society where the state has granted him a force monopoly. Then there's the argument that the gun makes confrontations lethal that otherwise would only result in injury. This argument is fallacious in several ways. Without guns involved, confrontations are won by the physically superior party inflicting overwhelming injury on the loser. People who think that fists, bats, sticks, or stones don't constitute lethal force watch too much TV, where people take beatings and come out of it with a bloody lip at worst. The fact that the gun makes lethal force easier works solely in favor of the weaker defender, not the stronger attacker. If both are armed, the field is level. The gun is the only weapon that's as lethal in the hands of an octogenarian as it is in the hands of a weight lifter. It simply wouldn't work as well as a force equalizer if it wasn't both lethal and easily employable. When I carry a gun, I don't do so because I am looking for a fight, but because I'm looking to be left alone. The gun at my side means that I cannot be forced, only persuaded. I don't carry it because I'm afraid, but because it enables me to be unafraid. It doesn't limit the actions of those who would interact with me through reason, only the actions of those who would do so by force. It removes force from the equation...and that's why carrying a gun is a civilized act. By Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret)

I hear ya, brother, loud and clear! <thumbsup> That's almost a lost artform, right there, and always beats the hell out of strippers, especially in some tight spaces. I reach for my knife first, every time. ;D

I'm ready out here, brother - I already broke out the liner for my motorcycle jacket, and my heavier gloves. I'm set! <laughs>

Fulton Armory has upgraded their website, and the nwe design looks pretty damn good. I haven't been through it enough yet to see if everything is linked in, but it looks like everything is good to go. <thumbsup> http://www.fulton-armory.com/

Hell yeah, brother - massive wood. <lmao>

Jgun, I'll pimp him for information, that's for sure. He casts his own bullets, machines some of his own bullets, all kinds of stuff. I talked to him briefly during the shooting sessions, and the range closes at 5pm. Funny that everybody kinda cleared out around 4:15 or so, so it was just my boy and I, and a friend of mine with his two sons. Nobody else. I started cleaning up around 4:45, and he was cleaning up with everything he had to do to close the range, and we just started talking. Even though the place closes at 5, I don't think we left until around 6:15... <lmao> <laughs> He does something with empty 9mm cases, where he reloads those into .45 ACP cases. It's strange. He fills the 9mm case with cast lead, taper crimps the top in, then loads that into a .45ACP case, as the projectile. After all that, he drills the 9mm projo out, into a HUGE hollowpoint. It's wild. It's one evil looking bullet, that's for sure. Basically, a brass-jacketed .45ACP hollowpoint. They star/spread out pretty damn well when he shoots them into steel plates. I think my son asked him if he could have one of the shot projos, so I'll try to find it and get a pic up here. <thumbsup>

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No, Silly Man, that's what Google is for... <dontknow> <lmao> . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

I was thinking the same thing, Jgun, as your first paragraph. That known-distance range I shoot on has an iron sight-only varmint competition every month, shooting the steel silhouettes out to 405 yards. I might want to get in that. ;D I know the A2 elevation wheel on the rifle is decently accurate, after using it at distance, back in the military days. I'm thinking this one will be alot of fun, and more of a challenge than usual - especially with my eyes getting older now... <lmao> That AR45 pictured above isn't the one the Rangermaster had out last Sunday - ironically, I was looking for a decent pic of the wooden furniture (cruising the 'net), and that happened to be the best looking pic I could find. The one that I handled last Sunday was set up very well, railed and 16" barrel, and it was an Oly upper (or select parts). The guy said he only got the BCG and barrel from Oly, and put everything else together himself - he was explaining about a modification that he did where he didn't need to use the "Oly paperclip" for the ejector - which was pretty cool. I didn't completely understand what all he did in order to get the ejection right, but it didn't involve drilling the upper receiver and putting in the Olympic spring (that is actually the ejector). Next time I see him out there, I'll ask more detailed questions. Impression of the CNC Guns lower - pure quality. Beautiful work. The grease gun mags are awesome, and they fit that lower like it was always meant to be that way. I held the carbine, and it was very well balanced, the way he had it set up, but I didn't ask him if I could shoot it - after I talk to him a couple more times, I'll definitely hint towards putting a few rounds downrange with it. I wasn't thinking about it right then, but I should have snapped a cellphone pic, at least. In the case with that AR45 was his .458 SOCOM, also... <thumbsup>

Eff it - parts are on the way. I need to start a new thread about this thing... <dontknow> :o

One hellaciously great light. <thumbsup>

If that joker was a large, I'd be all over it. Have any access to that size, by chance? (LR or LS, both would work...)

I have wanted one of these for a very, very long time - that is a fine specimen you have there. I would shoot the bejesus out of that. <thumbsup>

You are just wrong. :o I hope your stack of suppressors falls over and squashes yer nuts... <lmao> <laughs>

Damn. I saw the title, and didn't even want to look in here... <dontknow> <laughs> I saw that rifle, not long ago - very sweet. Been looking at the Savage 110 BA, too. I'm still drawn back to the 98B, though... :o

Trigger pull weight and hammer force have nothing to do with each other, really. I have a 2.5lb Jard trigger in my .308 AR, and it's nice - in your shoes, I'd call up Timney and see if they can include the 3lb trigger spring with the heavier .308 AR hammer - you win, both ways. Now, for the heavier hammer, and the necessity in the .308 AR - you might need that if all you plan to shoot is foreign Mil-Surp ammo, with hard primers. If you'll only shoot off-the-shelf commercial .308 Win ammo, you shouldn't "need" a heavier hammer to set the stuff off. 3lb AR-15 trigger (and hammer) would do the job nicely. <thumbsup>

I just can't find the words right now... <lmao> <laughs>

Shooting irons, with a long sight radius, was fun again. Not much fun in the Army, when that was all we had, but I've been using red dots and optics for so damn long now - that I actually, really enjoyed that. Smacking steel between 200~300 yards was fun again. ;D That has me thinking about something, and usually when I start thinking about something, it's gonna cost me money in very short order. :o I'm thinking of building an A2 full rifle with nothing but irons. However, it'll be a National Match-equivalent rifle. With a stainless barrel and wood furniture. I know, I know, sounds like poop, right? I think it's gonna turn out AWESOME! <thumbsup> My previous thoughts on my next build (and I still have a lower that's destined to be a 300BLK, too :-[) ) - anyway, next build was planned as an AR45. I got hands-on the CNC Guns AR45 dedicated lower last weekend at the range. The Rangemaster actually has one, and he had it out there. Very, very nice, and Sunday afternoon, that was "next." I'm kinda hesitating on that now, and I really want to build this 20" thing that would end up being a very accurate shooter. I'm confused... :o Here's a pic that is really killing me - this is the CNC Guns AR45 lower built into a complete 16" gun, AND it's got the wood furniture. Opinions, please - even though my mind is pretty much made up... <lmao>

Insteading of editing my response above ^^^ and trying to save face... :o I'll flat-out admit that I missed your post-about-my-post second response, and I skimmed this thread... :-[ I see NOW that Midwest PX was your source... <dontknow> <laughs>

Contact Midwest PX, and see if they can do it - hell, they might, already, but I'm not sure. I know they've successfully modified Pmags for reduced capacity in the past, offer them for sale in restricted states, and they do a great job. The legal ramifications are on you, though, to meet your own state's requirements, if that's what you're going for with a 7-rounder. If Midwest PX doesn't already do it, then maybe you can convince them to do it, but it might cost you. Contacting them is about the only way to find out. Phone is better than email. Always.

First, Horner is just a badass... <thumbsup> He could be shooting footballs, and that would work. I'm just sayin'. He's golden. <dontknow> Seeing the AMU shooting 300BLK - especially by him. That says something. <thumbsup> ;D

Son Of A BITCH!@!!*(&#%%^%@)(%)#$% :o I have to have that. :-[

Pmag disassembly has always been a strong point for me. I've marked enough issue mags in my time, on the training ranges, as failures. Once I get back from the range and rip 'em apart, they're just dirty as hell. Taking them apart is always the "pain in the ass" part of the weapons maintenance. Hard enough to get the gun "armorer-clean," and now I'm dealing with gunked up mags, and that was on my own time, not Army time. >:( Combat mags were a different story - get a new stack of issue mags everytime, no worries. It was interesting to count the number of coils in the mag array, SS. From left to right, I got 6 1/2 coils, 8 coils, 8 coils, 11 coils. That had to impact feeding, but I'm not up to thinking about how it impacts feeding right now. There are different round-count capacities for those mags, but if you think about a 19 or 20-rounder feeding with 8 coils, you'd think the 20-round Pmag with 11 coils would have too much pressure on the first round - not so. Wire diameter, relaxed length, and compressed length are the factors that impact springs, so if you could gather that data, I'd get into the deeper thought more. It's just like the impacts on valve springs on race engine building, and I can crunch all those numbers and come up with some real data. <thumbsup> As far as the feeding of the Pmag, I can only think about military "tradition" that's gone with decades of training on the 5.56 guns - when 20 and 30-round GI mags are loaded to capacity, the last (top) round is always on the right. Lots of military folks believe in the tradition of only loading 28 rounds in a 30-round mag (I think that's bullpoopy, turn in your mags for good ones, and 30-rounders should hold and feed 30 rounds). That "last" 28th round is still on the right. Military "tradition," kind of. Definitely not "Doctrine," but for sure, it's a "tradition." It was always a "known..." Well, the NEWEST military mags fugged that all up, and that's a personal piss-storm I'd rather not get into. The new issue mags screw that all up, and the last round is on the left now. Doctrinally, they haven't messed with anything - but they HAVE fucked up years and years of "recognition training" for those people that actually load and fire enough rounds in a training year, for it to make a difference. Bottom line is this: the .mil contractors and bean-counters didn't want to buy truly better anti-tilt followers from MagPul, so they made their own. The poop is exactly like a MagPul anti-tilt follower, but they changed the position of the "hump," which changed the position of the last round in the mag - which pissed off people that really DO shoot their issue rifles. No "copyright infringement" that way, so they can make their own. Woulda been cheaper to buy the poop from MagPul in the first place, too. That's my soapbox rant, and I'm off it now. So, in a 20 or 30-round mag, last round is in the right. Here's a few pics of (left to right) the latest issue mags with the tan followers, USGI issue mags with MagPul anti-tilt followers, actual 5.56 Pmags, and the MagPul LR20 mag. All are loaded to capacity, which is 30x5.56 rounds, 30x5.56 rounds, 30x5.56 rounds, and 20x.308 Win rounds. Top round left (on the new fucked up one), top round right, top round right, top round right. I honestly think MagPul did it because it's a "training thing." IMHO. <thumbsup> You can't even convert the "new issue" USGI mags to the MagPul anti-tilt followers, for a training-consistency reason, because the damn spring ends on the wrong side, and the end is in a different position. I hate that poop... >:(