jtallen83 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sig is responding; http://gunssavelives.net/gun-industry/breaking-sig-responds-to-atf-brace-ruling-will-take-action/ Nice to know they are getting right on top the issue instead of waiting for some poor sap to get charged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liber Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Sig is responding; http://gunssavelives.net/gun-industry/breaking-sig-responds-to-atf-brace-ruling-will-take-action/ Nice to know they are getting right on top the issue instead of waiting for some poor sap to get charged. Wow, I am more than happy to stand corrected on my above statements, I wouldn't have thought Sig would have stepped in and that's a small glimmer of light on this topic! I'm looking forward to seeing a response from the ATF in regard to Sig's statements. <thumbsup> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liber Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 Although reading that link again, there's not really a firm commitment on Sig's part... :( Still I look forward to any assistance they could provide in interfacing with the ATF on this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 sig has taken on the ATF before, but I don't see them going on the offense unless ATF tries to make the brace itself illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think they are just being diplomatic, giving the ATF a chance to reconsider the position. Politely putting them on notice is how I read it. I do prefer the Ares Armor approach but this may work for Sig......I hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liber Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 sig has taken on the ATF before, but I don't see them going on the offense unless ATF tries to make the brace itself illegal. I would tend to agree with that, but was hopeful when I first read it...time will tell, but I don't see them sticking their neck out too far. OTOH, they probably have a much better relationship with the ATF than we do, so maybe we can at least get some thoughts on this after they have time to research and pow-wow with the ATF. I do prefer the Ares Armor approach but this may work for Sig......I hope.Occasionally I feel they poke the bee hive too much, and not sure that is good for everyone's cause. The Government can be a PITA if they want to and can make all of lives miserable. I guess I don't mind the way Ares handles the ATF, but I'm not about to start treating them that way myself. If one antagonizes the ATF like Ares does, one is bound to have some problems with them. Doesn't seem his case is over yet...What Ares is facing is much steeper than shouldering a sig brace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StainTrain Posted January 23, 2015 Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 I think that this will eventually end up in Sig's favor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted January 23, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2015 This won't be SIG's first rodeo with the ATF - they're not backing down. http://www.seacoastonline.com/article/20141008/News/141009232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guruofhotrod Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 After being asked by a friend to look at this 308 pistol on atlantic firearms site, I noticed this quote from the ATF about shouldering it (with as they imply, a sig brace) http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/component/virtuemart/shipping-rifles/ptr-51p-pdw-308-pistol-atlantic-firearms-exclusive-2412-detail.html?Itemid=0 "For the following reasons, we have determined that firing a pistol from the shoulder would not cause the pistol to be reclassified as an SBR: The Firearms technology Branch classifies weapons based on their physical design characteristics. While the usage/functionality of the weapon does influence the intended design, it is not the sole criteria for determining the classification of a weapon. Generally speaking, we do not classify weapons based on how an individual uses a weapon." seem taking this at face value could get one in a bit of a jam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted March 8, 2015 Report Share Posted March 8, 2015 That was ATF's initial response. They have since back tracked on their "opinion". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelDeVille Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 If the true battle were won Sig would no longer be selling many braces, because the ENTIRE NFA process would be declared unconstitutional. FA, SBR, Supressors, and manufacturing would "Not be infringed" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdamO Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Right...and following ATFs newthink reasoning... firing a pistol with a two hand grip must re-make it into an AOW as others around the interwebs have so accurately pointed out. ATF and ObamaSoc is doubleplus ungood. Edited March 18, 2015 by AdamO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue109 Posted March 18, 2015 Report Share Posted March 18, 2015 doubleplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted March 20, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2015 ungood. BeforeObummer was much more gooder... <lmao> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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