bbush44 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I have been looking to pick up a few magazines (5 rd, 10 rd, & 20 rd) for my first 308 AR build. I am mostly interested in the metal mags, but not set on it if there is a better option in polymer. I see there several options out there, but wanted to get some opinions on the best money spent. I know with any setup there are good reliable mags and then just plan trash. Thanks in advance. Brian
planeflyer21 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Howdy Brian. What pattern rifle are you building? The DPMS-pattern PMags are VERY good. I'm very happy with the Rock River polymer FAL mags too. For 5-round and 10-round, I believe your only options right now are steel.
bbush44 Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Posted February 5, 2015 Howdy Brian. What pattern rifle are you building? The DPMS-pattern PMags are VERY good. I'm very happy with the Rock River polymer FAL mags too. For 5-round and 10-round, I believe your only options right now are steel. Plane, I should have mentioned that in the first post. My lower is a PTAC-10, DPMS pattern. Any advantages/disadvantages of polymer vs steel. I am old school I like things made out of steel. <thumbsup>
FaRKle! Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 Whatever you do, stay away from ASC mags. I made that mistake.
bbush44 Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Posted February 5, 2015 Whatever you do, stay away from ASC mags. I made that mistake. Thanks Farkle, Good to know. I was just looking at some ASC mags on Gunbroker. I will stay clear.
blue109 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) honestly can't do much better than PMAGs. the Lancer poly mags look nice but are way overpriced at the moment. I think someone posted a link to brownells branded 308 mags if you want metal. havnt seen a review, but they put out great 5.56 mags. Edited February 5, 2015 by blue109
Robocop1051 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 While at SHOT I met with ASC and CProducts. I was ready to bad mouth both of them... ASC is trying. The owner was there and a hell of a guy. I wasn't blown away with his products, but he seems aware of his past reputation and stated that he's got some changes for this year. CProducts is actually now CProducts Defense. The owner was away, but his wife was there to fill me in. They bought CProducts when the quality has fallen to crap. They stated that they've had a hard time rebuilding their reputation. They've been taking their mags back to the drawing board and are releasing some brand new designs. What really impressed me was their stainless mags. They felt like they were melonite treated. Their new anti-tilt follower was very sturdy too. Here's their new 28rd and 30rd 7.62x39 mags. The 28rd mag is supposed to fit in standard mag pouches... they rumored that the "new" 30rd can actually fit 35! CProducts advised that they increased the spine welds as well. Not just the number of welds, but also the strength of the welds. They showed me a mag they tried to pull apart. The body ripped before the welds broke.
bbush44 Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Posted February 5, 2015 Thanks Blue & Robo, so what brand and capacity do most people use on their builds?
Robocop1051 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 I have all Magpul mags. I have 20 and 10 round PMAGs for my .308
survivalshop Posted February 5, 2015 Report Posted February 5, 2015 While at SHOT I met with ASC and CProducts. I was ready to bad mouth both of them... ASC is trying. The owner was there and a hell of a guy. I wasn't blown away with his products, but he seems aware of his past reputation and stated that he's got some changes for this year. CProducts is actually now CProducts Defense. The owner was away, but his wife was there to fill me in. They bought CProducts when the quality has fallen to crap. They stated that they've had a hard time rebuilding their reputation. They've been taking their mags back to the drawing board and are releasing some brand new designs. What really impressed me was their stainless mags. They felt like they were melonite treated. Their new anti-tilt follower was very sturdy too. Here's their new 28rd and 30rd 7.62x39 mags. The 28rd mag is supposed to fit in standard mag pouches... they rumored that the "new" 30rd can actually fit 35! CProducts advised that they increased the spine welds as well. Not just the number of welds, but also the strength of the welds. They showed me a mag they tried to pull apart. The body ripped before the welds broke. I find it strange they said they bought CProducts when the quality was going down . I think I read some posts in another Forum where he was saying the quality went down when the new owners took over & made changes to his design . Could be he was pissed for loosing or selling the CO. or what ever made him go in another direction . Rebuilding their reputation ? On someone else's design & name , could be , I would give them a test to see how they do when they put them on the market ,against the old design . I have about twenty of the original CProducts & they are fine mags . They are all Stainless , I think , some of the Finnish comes off from use , but not a big deal. If the Lancers were not so expensive ( twice the price of the PMag ) I would get some & probably will to test them , like all the others I have done , but right now the twenty & twenty five rd. PMags are the best available for the price . My DPMS mags work fine also , I've had no problems with them .
mineralman55 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 I purchased several of the ACS 20 round metal mags and they have been flawless. I really like them. I have one P-mag and it too is great, but I just really like the ACS mags.
bbush44 Posted February 6, 2015 Author Report Posted February 6, 2015 Thank you for the replies. I will look at picking up some PMAGS for the 20rd. Any online vendors have the best pricing or shipping? Anyone have any experience with the 5rd or 10 rd metal ones? AR-Stoner http://www.midwayusa.com/product/2228349966/ar-stoner-magazine-lr-308-gii-sr-25-308-winchester-20-round-with-anti-tilt-follower-stainless-steel Fulton Armory http://www.fulton-armory.com/magazine-308-ar-5-round-stainless-steel-anti-tilt-follower-crsi-spring-black-finish.aspx Thanks Brian
Robocop1051 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 I have no experience with .308 metal mag (aside from AIMS and M14/M14 mags). Magpul makes a 10, 20 and 25 round mag. I liked Magpul so much that I bought a custom 5 round mag here...http://midwestpx.com/index.php?cPath=15_136_87 Brownells.com MidwestPX.com 44mag.com DSGArms.com
AngelDeVille Posted February 6, 2015 Report Posted February 6, 2015 I have a few of the metal Brownells mags on pre-order, if they are as nice as their AR15 mags I'll be happy.
bbush44 Posted February 9, 2015 Author Report Posted February 9, 2015 To the members that recommend the PMAGS, what is the difference between the Gen2 and Gen3? Any issues with the PTAC-10 Lower I have regarding the GEN2 VS GEN3?
blue109 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Posted February 9, 2015 for 5.56, the gen 3s are compatible with more platforms (HK 416) and advertised to have slightly stronger feed lips. not sure if there is any difference in the 7.62 mags other than capacity. not sure about your PA10 but if it works with PMAGS, it should work fine with both generations
98Z5V Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 To the members that recommend the PMAGS, what is the difference between the Gen2 and Gen3? This explains it all very well: http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=1056 Don't overlook these:
bbush44 Posted February 10, 2015 Author Report Posted February 10, 2015 This explains it all very well: http://modernserviceweapons.com/?p=1056 Don't overlook these: Thanks 98 for the link. Have you used any of the Lancer L7AWM magazines?
98Z5V Posted February 10, 2015 Report Posted February 10, 2015 (edited) Shot once, don't own yet. Everytime I check out from DSG Arms, I forget to toss one in my cart. I'll have some soon - it's at the top of my mind everytime I'm on that site now. The 5.56 L5s are the only thing I'll buy now for the other ARs. Don't get me wrong - love me some Pmags. I just don't see the reason to buy more Pmags with the L5s at the same price. Those things ROCK!... Edited February 10, 2015 by 98Z5V
AngelDeVille Posted March 2, 2015 Report Posted March 2, 2015 (edited) Well the final parts are on the way for my ar-10a and I should have the rifle completed by the end of the week. The Brownells 7.62 mags still show no sign of shipping, and I have no mags for the rifle. I was almost tempted to get a couple Stoner mags from Midway, but the reviews are inconsistent. The lancer mag looks really tempting but I wouldn't be able to justify buying more than one or two right now. I'm hesitant to buy any 7.62 Pmags because I intent to use 180gr bullets almost exclusively and I'm worried about oal cartridge length. For my AR15's I have Brownell 20 and 30 rounders, various USGI 30's and Teflon coated metal body Magpul 30's all function exceptionally well. I'm not too big of a MagPul plastic fan, they don't fit the crappy surplus mag carriers I always buy too well. Edited March 2, 2015 by AngelDeVille
Malig8r Posted March 3, 2015 Report Posted March 3, 2015 I purchased fifteen of the Pmag 25 rounders w/ the window. They were on sale at Primary Arms for $16.99 back around Christmas. Haven't had the chance to use them yet because I'm still working on the build.
bbush44 Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) I ended up ordering the following from www.leesmags.com. Shipping was reasonable and I had them in my hands in 2 days. http://www.leesmags.com/category-s/121.htm?searching=Y&sort=9&cat=121&show=30&page=2 14590586 ASC DPMS LR 308 5 round magazine 2 $14.00 13364154 Magpul 7.62 308 Win 20 RD DPMS LR 308 magazine GEN3 MAG-291-BLK 2 $15.00 12391198 DPMS LR 308 20 Round Magazine Promag DPM-A1 2 $17.00 The 5 round metal mags and the Magpul 20 round fit and function perfect. I had to beat on the bottom of the metal Promag to get them to latch in the lower. I contacted Promag and they are sending me replacements. I will see how the replacements fit. It looks like he raised his price a bit since I ordered. Edited March 3, 2015 by bbush44
AngelDeVille Posted March 3, 2015 Report Posted March 3, 2015 Dammit, primary arms had a BCG I needed, so I tossed two Lancers in with the order, they cost more than the BCG.
bbush44 Posted March 11, 2015 Author Report Posted March 11, 2015 The replacement Promags showed up in less than a week, and fit and function correctly.
AngelDeVille Posted March 14, 2015 Report Posted March 14, 2015 The Brownells mags still show no sign of shipping so I bought 7 gen3 25 round Magpul window mags from a primary arms sale. I did use the lancers this past week and while they are nice, they are just too expensive to have a large stock of them. I'll compare the magpuls to the lancers once they arrive. I think I'll cancel the Brownells order.
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