Old Bugeater Posted May 6, 2015 Report Posted May 6, 2015 I'm looking to buy a .308 ar. I'm going to buy a factory rifle and I'm wondering who makes the most accurate rifle right out of the box? I know everyone has their favorites and I'm interested to hear what the general consensus is. I've read about most of the major players like DPMS, LWRC, S&W, etc. etc. and can't seem to find out who's the most accurate with what ammo. I'm not looking to spend a ton on a custom, just something I can get over the counter at my local shop. Thanks for any/all input from the forum. Jim
D.R.D. Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 (edited) Supposedly LaRue seems to have the most accounts of amazing performance and reliability. I think a few people here have one. It's quite a wait to get one though, I hear. Ammo will just depend on that particular rifle. You'll need to test the usual suspects if you're planning on shooting factory loads, like Federal 168BTHP, 175SMK, Nosler, Hornady, and for extended ranges even check out Litz's ABM www.BuyABMAmmo.com Edited May 7, 2015 by D.R.D.
Malig8r Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I would argue that often times it has more to do with the shooter than the weapon. Granted there are platforms out there that have tighter tolerances but I know that I have been able to pick up a weapon that "must be something wrong with it" and been able to shoot at least MOA if not better.
bubbasks Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Agreed. Many rifles will out shoot their owners.
98Z5V Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 If you can outshoot a LaRue, you are a badass... :hail:
ChaseFan9 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 If you can outshoot a LaRue, you are a badass... :hail: Does it count if I built it?
ChaseFan9 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 Only if you're Mark Larue. I don't think you are. I mean what if the build I'm working on can out shoot one of LaRue's tac drivers...
Robocop1051 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 I mean what if the build I'm working on can out shoot one of LaRue's tac drivers... You can't. You can build one that shoots "as good" but I've never seen one that can "out shoot" a LaRue. The LaRue currently shoots sub-.5MOA... same with the GAP10... people are posting pics of .2-.3 groups shooting those rifles. Are you able to build a sub-.25 rifle? If so, why aren't you designing rifles as a profession? BubbaSKS has a tackdriving .308AR, all home built. Thousands less than the name brand off the shelf rifles, and shoots "as good" as any of them.
ChaseFan9 Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 You can't. You can build one that shoots "as good" but I've never seen one that can "out shoot" a LaRue. The LaRue currently shoots sub-.5MOA... same with the GAP10... people are posting pics of .2-.3 groups shooting those rifles. Are you able to build a sub-.25 rifle? If so, why aren't you designing rifles as a profession? BubbaSKS has a tackdriving .308AR, all home built. Thousands less than the name brand off the shelf rifles, and shoots "as good" as any of them. I'm hoping for "as good", but you never know 'til you get it on the range
bubbasks Posted May 7, 2015 Report Posted May 7, 2015 BubbaSKS has a tackdriving .308AR, all home built. Thousands less than the name brand off the shelf rifles, and shoots "as good" as any of them. Aww thanks hun :-*
Robocop1051 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Aww thanks hun :-* It also weighs 52 lbs and is long enough to double as the front bumper on a Peterbilt.... or I'm just not enough man to handle it.
bubbasks Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 14 lbs, mostly that heavy ass Steiner lol and its only like 45ish inches long. Just trade some of that rabbit food u eat for some texas bbq and im sure ull be able to handle it lol
bubbasks Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Like i told ya. 6'4 360. Adding 14 lbs to carry isnt a big deal lol
StainTrain Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 The thing about LaRue and to a slightly lesser extent the M110, is the round after round accuracy (I would say reliability, but the KAC can be finicky) . Some State Guys run the Gap-10 and I am becoming more and more impressed with them. Sure you can build a very accurate rifle, but is it accurate after a couple of 10 round groups? That is where Mark LaRue, George Gardner, and the boys in Titusville show their worth. All three rifles are beefy.
shepp Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 I would argue that often times it has more to do with the shooter than the weapon. Granted there are platforms out there that have tighter tolerances but I know that I have been able to pick up a weapon that "must be something wrong with it" and been able to shoot at least MOA if not better. That was my thought
shepp Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 14 lbs, mostly that heavy ass Steiner lol and its only like 45ish inches long. Just trade some of that rabbit food u eat for some texas bbq and im sure ull be able to handle it lol Think he just told you to man up robo
ChaseFan9 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 The thing about LaRue and to a slightly lesser extent the M110, is the round after round accuracy (I would say reliability, but the KAC can be finicky) . Some State Guys run the Gap-10 and I am becoming more and more impressed with them. Sure you can build a very accurate rifle, but is it accurate after a couple of 10 round groups? That is where Mark LaRue, George Gardner, and the boys in Titusville show their worth. All three rifles are beefy. I wonder if Ga Precision is hiring, Titusville is right up the road a ways from my house....
StainTrain Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) I wonder if Ga Precision is hiring, Titusville is right up the road a ways from my house.... KAC is Titusville. GA is in North Kansas City....they need to hire someone to answer the phone and return calls. ??? That being said, their "gunsmiting" is nothing short of spectacular. Edited May 8, 2015 by StainTrain
ChaseFan9 Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 Either way, I'd work for cheap if those guys would teach me their ways. I've always wanted to build guns for a living(especially precision rifles), and my current job is working me to death for next to nothing with little possibility of advancement. I can answer phones, mop floors, clean bathrooms, whatever it takes to get a foot in that shop door.
98Z5V Posted May 8, 2015 Report Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) Think he just told you to man up robo I'm pretty positive that was what he meant... <lmao> Chase, your foot in the door is answering those phones. I'm just sayin'... <thumbsup> Edited May 8, 2015 by 98Z5V
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