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Your Can Cannon is now an SBR

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That's right, the ATF ruled it to be an SBR if attached to a lower receiver. Now for the good news..... the 308AR can cannon is in production.

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Awesome.

Not finding anything about this in an open search.  Nothing.  Zero References.

 

EDIT - Just found it on WEVO and ARF...

http://www.weaponevolution.com/forum/showthread.php?8312-Can-Cannon-ruled-NFA-item.

https://www.ar15.com/mobile/topic.html?b=1&f=5&t=1790231

Cannot find it on X-Products webpage...

EDIT #2.  Oh shiit - they put it on their FB Page...

https://www.facebook.com/xproductsllc?fref=nf

 

Edited by 98Z5V

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The end of the "barrel" is internally threaded, and there's an allen bolt in it.  Stops any "forward" direction of the blast from the BLANK AMMUNITION, and directs it outward, through the side ports in the barrel.  Looks like I need to weld the allen bolt in place, and I'll be good.

So, not to mention HOW many ways this does not fit the classification for a Short Barreled Rifle, but...

* It fires BLANK AMMUNITION...

* It doesn't have a rifled barrel - it's a smooth-bore...

* It's not firing a projectile contained in a cartridge... 

The list goes on...

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I'm just gonna go ahead and incriminate a certain board member right now.  Even though this happened BEFORE their newest determination...  LMAO..

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Can you imagine how much safer I feel now that there is a formal determination on this dangerous can-launching, smooth-bore, blank-using, looks like a fun thing to play with device by our heroes at BATFE?  So glad my government took care of another serious problem.  Nice prioritization of tax expenditures, you assholez!

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Hmmmm , I wonder if a tennis ball cannon is different from a can cannon ? It does shoot a soft projectile !

Serious fucking question ! That would make a different !

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The ATF FIRST fucked themselves on this "determination" by the very legal definition that they say is "What are "firearms" under the NFA?":

This is their "Rifle" definition:

2.1.3
Rifle
. A rifle is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and designed to use the energy of an explosive in a fixed cartridge to
fire only a single projectile through a rifled barrel for each single pullof the trigger.
11
A rifle subject to the NFA has a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.
 
Contained here, right on their website - I've saved a copy, right now, in case they wanna change it overnight...
 

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So atf is gonna regulate my can consumption and add tax! Thats chicken shits! Haha its been done before slackers?

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I think its more like a shotgun.

Smooth bore.

I think we should modify it , an 18.5" barrel should unfuck the can cannon and skirt around the rules !

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ATFs website has suddenly become ALOT more confusing...  I'm just throwing that out there.  I haven't been on it in awhile, but it's pretty damn difficult to find information - that was readily available in the past - right now. 

Right now, it's tough to even find their definition of "Short Barreled Rifle..."

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So atf is gonna regulate my can consumption and add tax! Thats chicken shits! Haha its been done before slackers?

Hey Sketch, this oughta put a wrinkle in your Seahawks flag......it's worse than that.  Do ya think Seattle will apply their ammo tax to your can supply?

Go Hawks!

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Molon Labe...  Come get it, but back yourself with the law.  It's not even fitting the definition of a "Rifle," so it can't EVEN fall into the "Short Barreled Rifle" category...

It's not a Destructive Device ("DD"), because it doesn't fire an explosive...

Come get it.  Let's see how this shakes out in court, bitches.

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Fuk that - they're ALL good to go.  ALL Can Cannons... 

If they can't even meet the definition of "Rifle" in the first place, then they're not even "Rifles."  They CERTAINLY can't meet the definition of "Short Barreled Rifle..."

Since they're not even "Rifles" in the first place...

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Hey Sketch, this oughta put a wrinkle in your Seahawks flag......it's worse than that.  Do ya think Seattle will apply their ammo tax to your can supply?

Go Hawks!

GO HAWKS! Hell no i cant stand the traffic here why whould i go to seattle? 

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Some bonehead at the BAFTE had some crazy idea that one could launch an explosive in a can like a grenade. Some of these MF'ers want to get ahead of the curve !

Edited by MikedaddyH

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"Energy of an explosive" would seem to be contrary to BATF's definition of a propellant.

2.1.3
Rifle
. A rifle is a firearm designed to be fired from the shoulder and designed to use the energy of an explosive in a fixed cartridge to
fire only a single projectile through a rifled barrel for each single pullof the trigger.
11
A rifle subject to the NFA has a barrel or barrels of less than 16 inches in length.

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Idk who this fat Viking is but I know he says "fornicate them and their silly rules!!" 

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PS: it feels like the ATF is composed of a bunch of tight ass'd pricks who were bullied as children

Edited by shepp

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