CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 Alright fellas,I've been away for a bit shopping around for deals. Has anyone tried the Tactical Government Mid-Length Barrel, Modern Series?Whats the difference between the mid-length barrel and the rifle length barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beantown Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 I believe they are referring to the length of the gas system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Alright fellas,I've been away for a bit shopping around for deals. Has anyone tried the Tactical Government Mid-Length Barrel, Modern Series?Whats the difference between the mid-length barrel and the rifle length barrel?Just bought a new Ballistics Advantage .308 18" Govt Tactical profile with a mid-length gas system. Haven't installed it yet, since I don't yet have an upper to put it on. Got the barrel for $144 yeehaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 You will like it...and the price is awesome Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frankh252 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 You will like it...and the price is awesome WashSince my other barrel is 7.62x51 NATO, I bought 7.62 headspace gauges. And now that this one is .308Win, now I have to buy .308Win gauges too. Hey, better to have them than not haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Sweet!. my barrel is actually on its way as we speak. Should be here before the end of this week. Also got a Odin Works adjustable gas block also be here this week. And purchased a SS wilson Midlength gas tube with a roll pin will also be here this week. Now I purchased a Handguard for my upper. Just found out that it not a low profile rail and its a high. Made it just in time to contact the seller on Gunbroker to cancel before he sent it. I know the low profle is a new/popular thing. I've tried looking everywhere and I have no clue where I can get a high profile key mod/M-Lok rail. Any of your guys have any input. I just got off the phone with one of the sales at MatrixAero and theirs are low profiles. Any ideas fellas? I've tried gubbroker, Schuylerarms, Palmetto, Brownells, Aimsurplus etc.. Looking for a 15'' rail/handguard DPMS somewhat under $150? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 15, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 Sorry Ive been gone for a bit. Been busy with work and kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted March 15, 2016 Report Share Posted March 15, 2016 (edited) Crash call these folks https://www.midwestindustriesinc.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&category_ID=1345 or these....ive got one of these sweet! they have em for either height http://www.apexhandguard.com/2360-ar10-308-dpms-15-0-ext-rifle-length-12-7-oz-with-hardware-apex-gatorgrip-handguard/ .......... ...... or these folks http://www.primaryarms.com/midwest-industries-15-308-freefloat-keymod-handguard-dpms-high-spec/p/kt-mi-308ss15-dhk/ https://troyind.com/products/m-lok-308-hp-aluminum-15-fde this one http://www.jlbillet.com/jl-billet-lr-308-15-angle-cut-m-lok-handguard-high-profile/ 15" m-lok USA made ! whatcha waitin for ? Crash said "Looking for a 15'' rail/handguard DPMS somewhat under $150? " You're killin me under a buck fifty? yeah sure for a bb gun LOL Wash Edited March 16, 2016 by washguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Crash...where are ya? you need to get busy with this handguard ^^^^^^^^^^ ...time's waist-in Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 Im in Anchoragr, AK Maybe a generous donation? '; ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted March 16, 2016 Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, CrashOverRide.308 said: Im in Anchoragr, AK Maybe a generous donation? '; ) A generous donation to me? No way..im here to help you...but you could donate to the forum Wash Edited March 16, 2016 by washguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2016 (edited) When building the 308. What kind of issues should I be looking for before the range and at the rang? Basic diagnostics? I saw a youtube vid about an AR15 but does that apply to the AR10? A little worried. I saw a clip on youtube about another amateur gunsmith/builder he had all sorts of malfunctions. 1st the rifle did not cycle, didnt fire more issues on cycling. Cried about it through the whole video blamed everything on parts and the rifle itself. Recommended that everyone should not buy any ar308 stripped or parts and buy one already pre-made. He claims this has never happened to him as he built 2 AR15s. Made me wonder. If you have any experience. What should I look for and how? Edited March 16, 2016 by CrashOverRide.308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 17, 2016 Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 If you use quality components there should be no issues . I will only use same manufacturers Receivers set , we see problems with tolerance stacking issues when using different manufacturers Upper & Lower Receivers . When you do its a crap shoot , some work & mate well some don't . I have had good experiences with using DPMS manufactured Lowers & Tactical Machining Upper Receivers , but had issues with what Magazine was used in an early CMMG Lower & SI Defense Upper receiver , which since has been alleviated by MagPul coming out with the Gen 3 Mags for the 308AR , the combo will not function reliably with the first Gen PMag. Some BCG's are also causing some issues , the NIB coatings on some manufacturers BCG's are too thick or out of spec. & can cause issues before breaking in with round count . You have to realize there is no MilSpec on the 308AR's out there , so no spec's on how each component is manufactured like the AR 15 . Some manufacturers make their products proprietary , so you need their components to have the rifle function correctly or its fitment . Buffer assembly is also something you want to pay attention to , stick with the same group of components , DPMS or AR 10 , keep the system components all one or the other & you will be good , mix & match can cause issues. Since you are building a Rifle , from various manufacturers components , some fitment may be needed , you don't have the luxury of a Manufactured rifle that the manufacturer has spent $$ on R&D to make sure all the Components fit & fiction together , so a production line worker can assemble & it goes out the door a somewhat flawlessly working rifle . You are basically a custom gunsmith making a custom rifle & experience is what will make a reliable rifle . If you read the build section , you will see a lot of issues that come up & most are easily remedied & some are not . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 17, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2016 Thank you for your input. Will have to take lots of notes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 So I recently purchased a "blem" BCG from Dwilsonmfg here on the for sale thread. It comes with a gas key. What is the gas key for? Any insight would be great. Thank You, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 5 hours ago, CrashOverRide.308 said: So I recently purchased a "blem" BCG from Dwilsonmfg here on the for sale thread. It comes with a gas key. What is the gas key for? So you can put gas in it; transfers gas from the gas tube to inside the carrier where it pushes against the back of the bolt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted March 21, 2016 Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 On 3/17/2016 at 4:06 PM, CrashOverRide.308 said: Thank you for your input. Will have to take lots of notes. Crash Have you ever shot or held an AR of any kind? Have you ever field stripped one? you must remember this a weapon that can kill you hurt you...kill someone else hurt someone else assembling an AR of any caliber takes more than... NOTES ...you must have some working knowledge of how an AR works,and how its assembled Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 21, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2016 5 minutes ago, washguy said: Crash Have you ever shot or held an AR of any kind? Have you ever field stripped one? you must remember this a weapon that can kill you hurt you...kill someone else hurt someone else assembling an AR of any caliber takes more than... NOTES ...you must have some working knowledge of how an AR works,and how its assembled Wash Im in the process of putting one together now. Was never a huge fan of ARs because they reminded me so much of the rifle and pistols Storm Troopers used. But thought I join in on it and see what its all about. I shot an AR15. Just wasnt kicking hard enough so opted out for the 308 and loved it. Doing as much research as much as I can when family and work permits me. Havent field strip it yet. Im assuming it would be the same as putting it together vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 (edited) Ok everyone. I have quite a few things coming in the mail. BCG from Dwilson should be here either today or tomorrow. gas tube w/roll pin from midway, and a durable "cheap" rail either friday or next week. i'd like to thank everyone's input on this build of mine and my noob-sance questions. JT, Wash, Shepp, Survival, and everyone I may have forgotten to mention has been a GREAT big HELP! I almost want to say it is complete. Maybe the rifle. But I still need to get it spaced by a GS and see how well the rifle will function. Hoping it functions great at the range. Little to or no malfunctions at all. I will post pics of before and after and pics at the range. Any issues I run across I will post it here for answers that I cannot fix on my own. Once again. THANK YOU!! Crash Edited March 24, 2016 by CrashOverRide.308 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washguy Posted March 24, 2016 Report Share Posted March 24, 2016 way to go Crash...just take your time Wash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted March 25, 2016 Report Share Posted March 25, 2016 And on bad range days, like when you can't go because of a death in the family or you need to go into work on payday, spend some time catching up on the new stuff here. and spend some time on UTube, there are many good how to do videos. Like this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrashOverRide.308 Posted March 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 Awesome. Thank you sir. Another question that a buddy and I were discussing at work. He mentioned that I need to have the broken in? How does one do that? He also mentioned about If I shot different brand bullets and grain. It can ruin my bore? Say what? That I need to only stick to 1 brand and specific grain? That doesnt make any sense at all. He is either kidding with me or he doesn't know what he is talking about. What do you guys think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shepp Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 4 hours ago, CrashOverRide.308 said: Awesome. Thank you sir. Another question that a buddy and I were discussing at work. He mentioned that I need to have the broken in? How does one do that? He also mentioned about If I shot different brand bullets and grain. It can ruin my bore? Say what? That I need to only stick to 1 brand and specific grain? That doesnt make any sense at all. He is either kidding with me or he doesn't know what he is talking about. What do you guys think? Yea that's not correct info. When your ready to shoot make sure you got her lubed up good tho like wet wet, like a coed in a banana factory wet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
survivalshop Posted March 28, 2016 Report Share Posted March 28, 2016 (edited) 4 hours ago, CrashOverRide.308 said: Awesome. Thank you sir. Another question that a buddy and I were discussing at work. He mentioned that I need to have the broken in? How does one do that? He also mentioned about If I shot different brand bullets and grain. It can ruin my bore? Say what? That I need to only stick to 1 brand and specific grain? That doesnt make any sense at all. He is either kidding with me or he doesn't know what he is talking about. What do you guys think? New Build is not like a factory rifle where their R & D has come up with proper manufacturing of components for an assembly line that can assemble the Rifle & it function out of the gate . You are the R & D , assembler & Gunsmith , to make the proper fitment of said components . Some of & even some Factory rifles need a break in for proper function of the Action . Run it Wet is our motto here for break in , no matter where the rifle comes from or is built . It is some what true that most rifles like or should I say shoot better with certain ammo , saying that , most if not all , will shoot just about any 7.62x51/308 , just the Barrel/Chamber will prefer one bullet/charge more then others . It is also true that using a steady diet of high pressure ammo will degrade the service life of a Barrel . Your fast Shepp Edited March 28, 2016 by survivalshop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mineralman55 Posted March 31, 2016 Report Share Posted March 31, 2016 On 2/20/2016 at 2:11 PM, CrashOverRide.308 said: Sweet! Will go back and sign up for their newsletter. Thank You. Does the armorer wrench come with the barrel? I read somewhere that sometimes the manufacturer will provide the wrench. If not. I need to put an order in for it. That way I have everything ready to go. If not. Will an AR15 wrench suffice? No, it does not come with a wrench (I used a pipe wrench with a cloth around the barrel nut, blasphemy!!! ). I bought that AP 16" barrel for my last build. Fits perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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