cas0586 Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 In the beginning stages of a 'budget' build. So not looking to 'break the bank' on a trigger. I am wondering if polishing the trigger group, jp reduced power springs and an adjustable trigger grip screw would make for noticeably nicer trigger over mil-spec? My other rifles all have mil-spec triggers so I don't have any comparisons to after market triggers. Yes plenty of youtube videos and forum posts but wanted to hear what ar/lr 308 community had to say The rifle is mostly going be used bench shooting and perhaps in tree stand a couple of times a year. Thanks for you time.
shepp Posted November 16, 2016 Report Posted November 16, 2016 (edited) Welcome to the forum feel free to post up in the intro section *****man I really need to start proff reading my posts Edited November 18, 2016 by shepp
unforgiven Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 Welcome from Indiana brother. A good trigger and barrel is not where you want to go low budget. Just my 2 mags.
survivalshop Posted November 17, 2016 Report Posted November 17, 2016 I have Polished many Milspec triggers with mixed results , you can actually make them worse , believe it or not . If you plan on using this Rifle for any kind of good groups , an after market Trigger ( FCG ) is where you need to go , the Milspecs do work , but thats about it . The ALG ACT (FCG) is around $ 60 or so & I have got a good break on the ones I have @ about 51/2 # 's consistent , good for Hunting & really not all that bad if you want to play with grouping . There are a few around now since ALG came out with there's & are very good also , I just don't have any experience with any of them but the ALG ACT & the Enhanced Spikes Tactical , which is as good as the ALG . A good Drop in is also a Plus , http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/triggers/ar-15-velocity-trigger-curved-prod94245.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR-15 Here is one around $ 115 , not tried it ,but three pound pull , I have heard its a good FCG . Its all about $$ & you know you can go up from here.
blue109 Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 Good price on that velocity! Awesome trigger. Wouldn't reliably ignite my old junk milsurp 762 though
cas0586 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Posted November 18, 2016 On 11/16/2016 at 6:30 PM, shepp said: Welcome to the forum feel ftee to post upbin the intro section Thanks! I plan do do so to post about my build shortly.
cas0586 Posted November 18, 2016 Author Report Posted November 18, 2016 (edited) On 11/16/2016 at 6:30 PM, shepp said: Welcome to the forum feel ftee to post upbin the intro section Thanks for the welcome. I plan to do so shortly. On 11/17/2016 at 0:20 PM, unforgiven said: Welcome from Indiana brother. A good trigger and barrel is not where you want to go low budget. Just my 2 mags. Understandable. My build is using an 18" 416R barrel. 22 hours ago, survivalshop said: I have Polished many Milspec triggers with mixed results , you can actually make them worse , believe it or not . If you plan on using this Rifle for any kind of good groups , an after market Trigger ( FCG ) is where you need to go , the Milspecs do work , but thats about it . The ALG ACT (FCG) is around $ 60 or so & I have got a good break on the ones I have @ about 51/2 # 's consistent , good for Hunting & really not all that bad if you want to play with grouping . There are a few around now since ALG came out with there's & are very good also , I just don't have any experience with any of them but the ALG ACT & the Enhanced Spikes Tactical , which is as good as the ALG . A good Drop in is also a Plus , http://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/triggers-parts/triggers/ar-15-velocity-trigger-curved-prod94245.aspx?avs|Make_3=AR-15 Here is one around $ 115 , not tried it ,but three pound pull , I have heard its a good FCG . Its all about $$ & you know you can go up from here. I have read that about polishin mil-spec triggers. Thanks for the recommendations. I know there are many on the market. It may best to 'save' for one to appreciate! I have looked at the RRA triggers, Del-ton Two Stage, Geiselle G2S(~$120 shipped on sale right now). So many out there is hard to make a decision! Edited November 18, 2016 by cas0586
survivalshop Posted November 18, 2016 Report Posted November 18, 2016 The G2 is a great Trigger if you want a two stage , I have two of them .
Mr_Roboto Posted November 20, 2016 Report Posted November 20, 2016 On my AR-15s (YMMV) I used the JP Reduced Power Springs, bobbed the hammer (cut the "spur" off that's an appendix from it's full auto design) and did the grip screw mod. Basically you take a tap and tap all the way through the grip screw hole so you can put a 1/4-28 set screw in and remove the takeup from the trigger. Put some blue loctite on it, adjust it and you're good to go. I also did a minimal amount of polishing on the trigger (basically to remove the machine marks) and left the sear alone. This was on a CMMG parts kit, I'd get the ALG Enhanced for a few bucks extra and skip it probably. It's not a $300 trigger but it's a lot better than stock at a not $300 price. Another budget option is a Rock River National Match Trigger. Supposedly you can pop the pin in one, put an AR-15 bolt catch spring in the disconnector and it reduces the weight significantly however I haven't gotten there yet. I've seen those for under $100 before. That said I actually think I prefer the single stage above, although admittedly I'm far from a trigger snob.
shepp Posted November 20, 2016 Report Posted November 20, 2016 CAS I've heard some good things on here about the RRA triggers too always a good review it seems
washguy Posted November 20, 2016 Report Posted November 20, 2016 Cas ive got rr triggers they are nice but lay out an xtra fifty and get you a velocity...they are sweet Wash
98Z5V Posted November 20, 2016 Report Posted November 20, 2016 2 hours ago, Mr_Roboto said: Another budget option is a Rock River National Match Trigger. Do some more research on that one. There are miles and miles of bad reviews, over time,on that POS trigger.
cas0586 Posted November 21, 2016 Author Report Posted November 21, 2016 I think I would rather have a two stage trigger for this build. The velocity is single stage correct? Sort of leaning toward the Geissele G2S as of now.
cas0586 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Without opening another thread... does anyone here use the Giessele G2S with .308 build? I saw where DPMS says not intended for use in .308...? Edited November 22, 2016 by cas0586
survivalshop Posted November 22, 2016 Report Posted November 22, 2016 https://forum.308ar.com/topic/13841-trigger-compatibility/
cas0586 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Posted November 22, 2016 14 minutes ago, survivalshop said: https://forum.308ar.com/topic/13841-trigger-compatibility/ Hey thanks for that! I am pretty good with a dremel. So I guess I will wait for DPMS to send me that diagram. The price on the trigger is pretty good.
EngrBob Posted November 22, 2016 Report Posted November 22, 2016 2 hours ago, cas0586 said: Hey thanks for that! I am pretty good with a dremel. So I guess I will wait for DPMS to send me that diagram. The price on the trigger is pretty good. If you start out with an 80% lower you never have to worry about polishing the trigger. You simply have to polish the fire control pocket!
survivalshop Posted November 22, 2016 Report Posted November 22, 2016 11 hours ago, cas0586 said: Hey thanks for that! I am pretty good with a dremel. So I guess I will wait for DPMS to send me that diagram. The price on the trigger is pretty good. If your rifle even needs it to be done , for some reason most don't need it altered & its really an easy alteration . I just can't find my drawing they sent or the thread here on it , I'll keep looking .
cas0586 Posted November 22, 2016 Author Report Posted November 22, 2016 (edited) Geissele sent it to me this morning. Seems easy enough. As you said if it even needs to be performed. 03-106 PSA LOWER HAMMER MODIFICATION REVISED.pdf Edited November 22, 2016 by cas0586
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