Left wing nutjob strikes again

[survivalshop]

  So much for a back ground check or a FOID card .

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/15/atf-confirms-alexandria-attackers-gun-purchases-involved-background-check/

[GRA]

47 minutes ago, survivalshop said:

  So much for a back ground check or a FOID card .

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/15/atf-confirms-alexandria-attackers-gun-purchases-involved-background-check/

Like with Seattle's tax ... all the FOID card program and NIICS program does is provide another group of funds for the lawmakers to raid as they see fit.  All this stuff is nothing but another scam.

[shepp]

1 hour ago, survivalshop said:

  So much for a back ground check or a FOID card .

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/15/atf-confirms-alexandria-attackers-gun-purchases-involved-background-check/

One thing wrong there and maybe I'm just reading it wrong, but a FOID card isn't a carry license it's simply a license to buy firearms and ammo as a resident in the state of Illinois 

[GRA]

1 minute ago, shepp said:

One thing wrong there and maybe I'm just reading it wrong, but a FOID card isn't a carry license it's simply a license to buy firearms and ammo as a resident in the state of Illinois 

This is what I understand also.  Every hunter, shooter, etc., has to have one in order to simply make the purchases.  Crazy.

[shepp]

1 minute ago, GRA said:

This is what I understand also.  Every hunter, shooter, etc., has to have one in order to simply make the purchases.  Crazy.

That's exactly it 

"This is why the same individual can pass another background to get a carry permit [or a FOID card]."

 

but they say this in the article and idk if they're calling a foid card a carry permit (which it is not) or just saying like a carry permit there's a strong BG check with a foid card. 

[GRA]

19 minutes ago, shepp said:

That's exactly it 

"This is why the same individual can pass another background to get a carry permit [or a FOID card]."

 

but they say this in the article and idk if they're calling a foid card a carry permit (which it is not) or just saying like a carry permit there's a strong BG check with a foid card. 

I'm not sure just exactly what the communist state of Illinois does for a BG check.  It may be the same as a NIICS check but I'm not sure.

Remember this is the state (i.e. because of Chicago and racist/communist mayor Rham Emanuel mostly) that tried to prohibit handgun permits until they were hit by the Heller decision like DC was.  They lost.  I think at one point they tried to outlaw handgun ownership totally (again like DC) but the Heller lawsuit stopped that too.

Now folks there can get carry permits and I'm sure their criminal history is checked.  From my understanding all firearm purchases have to be completed by the successful completion of a NIICS check also, so you get checked when you buy the firearm(s) and if you apply for a carry permit you get checked when you go through that.  In this funky place (Illinois) you have to get a Firearms Owner ID card which also requires a check to buy firearms AND ammo and of course that requires a NIICS or similar check too with each individual purchase (I may be wrong on this).

No FOID card - no ammo, etc.

Left wing nut and lunatic Bloomberg was trying to establish this as a model for the entire nation and was willing to spend a fortune to do it.

Hasn't worked in Texas yet and many other places.  If you have a LTC in Texas you don't have to go through another NIICS check when you buy a firearm and/or related item(s) but if you don't have the LTC you have to have a NIICS check done whenever you purchase a firearm however this doesn't apply to ammo, etc.,

Edited June 16, 2017 by GRA

[GRA]

Wouldn't you know it ... LOL ... go to "gopthedailydose.com" and check out a new article this morning about there being a possible connection between this idiot shooter and Tim Caine.  

This is going to be interesting to see all this unfold.  Just sit back and watch the fireworks.  

[DNP]

I'm all in favor of the right to opinion, but if you read that article and truly believe that info somehow links Kaine to the shooter, well...the tinfoil might be on a little too tight. There's more evidence that Trump is a Russian puppet than that article gives to its title. That's not a site I've ever visited, but from a quick glance it appears to be no better than any liberal rag with random accusations and zero backup.  

[GRA]

34 minutes ago, DNP said:

I'm all in favor of the right to opinion, but if you read that article and truly believe that info somehow links Kaine to the shooter, well...the tinfoil might be on a little too tight. There's more evidence that Trump is a Russian puppet than that article gives to its title. That's not a site I've ever visited, but from a quick glance it appears to be no better than any liberal rag with random accusations and zero backup.  

I think they're saying that Kaine's statements (and others) helped to give him the mindset.  Of course, with somebody this nuts there's no telling what was spinning in his head.

[survivalshop]

 The whole point of my comment of the FOID card is , no matter how many types of Back ground checks or how many times , people ( Humans ) slip through the cracks . You can do a Mental stability check one day & something switches in someones head , be it a Domestic , political , or just fuked up in the head & they go crazy & do something bad  or illegal  with a firearm , Hammer , Bladed weapon or a car/truck . there is now way you can stop a nut case once they go wacko . You can't drug them to stay sane , you can't counsel them , some people will just go crazy , period .  

[mrmackc]

Anyone actually know for certain, what make, model and caliber rifle the shooter used in the Alexandria attack?

It seems strange to me it has to be a big deal keeping it a big secret.

[GRA]

49 minutes ago, mrmackc said:

Anyone actually know for certain, what make, model and caliber rifle the shooter used in the Alexandria attack?

It seems strange to me it has to be a big deal keeping it a big secret.

I've heard AK47, AR15, and pistol (NFI).  Nothing confirmed.

[Armed Eye Doc]

1 hour ago, GRA said:

I've heard AK47, AR15, and pistol (NFI).  Nothing confirmed.

I saw one report that it was an SKS.  So, there's really no saying for sure, except to say it was evil looking and scary.

[EngrBob]

I have seen SKS in several reports, along with a pistol that was apparently not used.  They can't release the detail otherwise some smart ass (like any of us) will point out that it wasn't an assault weapon, just a semi-automatic.  Sounds like he was a typical snowflake that couldn't shoot straight, lucky for those on the field.

[98Z5V]

10 hours ago, survivalshop said:

You can do a Mental stability check one day & something switches in someones head...

This happens to me 17 or 30 times a day...  

[shepp]

19 hours ago, survivalshop said:

 The whole point of my comment of the FOID card is , no matter how many types of Back ground checks or how many times , people ( Humans ) slip through the cracks . You can do a Mental stability check one day & something switches in someones head , be it a Domestic , political , or just fuked up in the head & they go crazy & do something bad  or illegal  with a firearm , Hammer , Bladed weapon or a car/truck . there is now way you can stop a nut case once they go wacko . You can't drug them to stay sane , you can't counsel them , some people will just go crazy , period .  

100%, and where there's a will there's a way 

[mrmackc]

1 minute ago, shepp said:

100%, and where there's a will there's a way 

A good guy with a gun on the scene works somewhat !