98Z5V Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 The Army is going after it. I'm gonna quote this whole article, as well as link it. Rob is gonna SHIIT A RABID MONKEY!!! https://www.military.com/kitup/2018/06/18/army-will-test-out-3-more-sub-guns-security-units.html?ESRC=army-a_180620.nl Army Will Test Out 3 More Sub-Guns For Security Units Military.com 18 Jun 2018 By Matthew Cox U.S. Army weapons officials have expanded the list of submachine gun-style weapons the service plans to test to find a low-profile weapon for security personnel. Project Manager Soldier Weapons announced recently that it planned to spend $428,480 to award sole-source contracts to 10 gun makers for "highly-concealable" subcompact weapons for an upcoming evaluation, according to a June 6 award announcement. The Army will now add three more companies to the list, bringing the total up to $472,480, according to a June 15 announcement. Here's a breakdown of the additional awards: -- Heckler and Koch Defense Inc., for its UMP9 subcompact weapon. Amount: $10,850. -- Angstadt Arms Corporation for its UDP-9 subcompact weapon. Amount: $15,950. -- Noveske Corporation for its Noveske subcompact weapon. Amount: $17,200. Currently personal security detail personnel use M4 carbines and pistols, but Army officials now say these units need an more concealable, but still lethal alternative, according to the original award announcement. Without such a weapon, PSD military personnel will be left "with a capability gap which can result in increased warfighter casualties and jeopardize the success of the U.S. mission," the announcement adds. The initial 10 awards will go to Beretta USA, Colt Manufacturing Company, CMMG Inc., CZ-USA, Sig Sauer and five other small arms makers for pistol-caliber weapons "capable of engaging threat personnel with a high volume of lethal and accurate fires at close range with minimal collateral damage," according the original announcement. Matthew Cox can be reached at matthew.cox@military.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robocop1051 Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 Really??!? CMM-Fucking-G?!?? How many of our guys are going to get killed over shitty equipment?? in their VERY MILD defense, their complete firearms have a decent reputation. My greatest gripe with them is their shitty bulk parts amatuers buy for cheap on their builds. Experienced builders have a bit more success as they tend to understand tolerance stacking better, and can hand fit the parts. Their complete firearms would get more credit from me if they didn’t look like total crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted June 21, 2018 Author Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 I knew it was coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 1 hour ago, 98Z5V said: I knew it was coming... That's. What. She. Said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted June 21, 2018 Report Share Posted June 21, 2018 2 hours ago, Robocop1051 said: Really??!? CMM-Fucking-G?!?? How many of our guys are going to get killed over shitty equipment?? in their VERY MILD defense, their complete firearms have a decent reputation. My greatest gripe with them is their shitty bulk parts amatuers buy for cheap on their builds. Experienced builders have a bit more success as they tend to understand tolerance stacking better, and can hand fit the parts. Their complete firearms would get more credit from me if they didn’t look like total crap. Tell us how you really feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 9, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 Hmmm... 3 days ago, the US Army cancelled this testing, and the contracts to the 13 companies. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/06/breaking-us-army-cancels-sub-compact-weapon-program/ Aaaaaaaand then. 7 hours ago, the US Army announced this new contract to SIG. https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/07/09/us-army-awards-sig-sauer-contract-for-sp2022-mpx-and-the-mcx/ From that second article: Sources confirm this is unrelated to the Army’s ongoing Sub Compact Weapon programme. Oh, sure. I'm sure it's completely unrelated... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DNP Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 They haven't learned that lesson yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted July 9, 2018 Report Share Posted July 9, 2018 If I remember correctly, the SP2022 was ordered for the US Army’s Armor Command at one time. There was some thought they were actually being ordered for the Iraqi Army back then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARTrooper Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 government on a sig kick lately. wonder what high ranking officials have stock in sig. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sisco Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 15 minutes ago, ARTrooper said: government on a sig kick lately. wonder what high ranking officials have stock in sig. lol. Sig hires the best looking hookers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 5 hours ago, ARTrooper said: government on a sig kick lately. wonder what high ranking officials have stock in sig. lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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