Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Report Posted January 17, 2019 I wanted to ask the opinion of you gentleman on different weight bullets for my RPR 308. I'm currently shooting federal gold 168gr Sierra match, shoots well so far. What are your opinions on 149gr, limitations etc.? I'm assuming a lighter bullet will not preform as well out far as a heavier bullet that is why I'm asking here because I am not as knowledgeable as most of you. Any information would be great, thank you
98Z5V Posted January 17, 2019 Report Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) The 147s will still be accurate, brother. You'll start seeing the difference at 500 yards and out, though - more drop than your 168s, and more susceptible to wind deflection. The drop and dope you know for the 168s will be a little different on the 147s, starting 500. Might be a little different at 400. At 300 and in, it won't be off hardly at all. Edited January 17, 2019 by 98Z5V
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Posted January 17, 2019 Thanks! I plan on reloading down the road. Using factory right now though. Found I can get the 149's 1/3 cheaper than 168, or 175gr. Curious why such a price difference
washguy Posted January 17, 2019 Report Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Lone get you some Privi match 168...theres 175 too but I always shoot the 168 cause my scope is tuned to the 168 drop....saves bucks and shoots right there with the Federal....shop wisely and you can save some money. Wash not a great price but sumthin to go by https://www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-308-match-168-grain-bthp-prvi-partizan-ammo-pp321 Edited January 17, 2019 by washguy
jtallen83 Posted January 17, 2019 Report Posted January 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: Found I can get the 149's 1/3 cheaper than 168, or 175gr. Curious why such a price difference Big difference in match ammo and M80 ball if that's the comparison you are making. Tolerances are held much tighter on the match stuff hence the price difference. Last batch of Federal M80 I bought is pretty sloppy, occasionally get a 1 MOA five round group but see plenty in the 3 MOA range, still great for banging steel at 100 yards. I have some FN M80 ball that shoots 1 MOA easy all the time. FGMM is the most consistent I have used but that Prvi Wash suggested is right on the heels of the FGMM, any difference could very well be my imagination.
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, washguy said: Lone get you some Privi match 168...theres 175 too but I always shoot the 168 cause my scope is tuned to the 168 drop....saves bucks and shoots right there with the Federal....shop wisely and you can save some money. Wash not a great price but sumthin to go by https://www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-308-match-168-grain-bthp-prvi-partizan-ammo-pp321 Thank you, I will give that a check
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Posted January 17, 2019 39 minutes ago, jtallen83 said: Big difference in match ammo and M80 ball if that's the comparison you are making. Tolerances are held much tighter on the match stuff hence the price difference. Last batch of Federal M80 I bought is pretty sloppy, occasionally get a 1 MOA five round group but see plenty in the 3 MOA range, still great for banging steel at 100 yards. I have some FN M80 ball that shoots 1 MOA easy all the time. FGMM is the most consistent I have used but that Prvi Wash suggested is right on the heels of the FGMM, any difference could very well be my imagination. I know the ball ammo will not be Precision like what I'm using now or even better yet reloads. I was mainly curious about how a lighter bullet would hold up at further distances. Also slightly stumped why different weights are different prices depending on the brand. Seems like they just hold the price up higher on the more desired weights because they can...
Sisco Posted January 17, 2019 Report Posted January 17, 2019 49 minutes ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: I know the ball ammo will not be Precision like what I'm using now or even better yet reloads. I was mainly curious about how a lighter bullet would hold up at further distances. Also slightly stumped why different weights are different prices depending on the brand. Seems like they just hold the price up higher on the more desired weights because they can... Federal has to buy those Sierra Match bullets from Sierra, albeit at a discount. I am guessing they make their 147 gr FMJ in house, without near the quality control Sierra is using for a match bullet. That right there will cause a large price differential.
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Posted January 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, Sisco said: Federal has to buy those Sierra Match bullets from Sierra, albeit at a discount. I am guessing they make their 147 gr FMJ in house, without near the quality control Sierra is using for a match bullet. That right there will cause a large price differential. Good point...
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Posted January 17, 2019 (edited) Just recieved 10 boxes of the federal yesterday from PSA @ $17 per box. $14 for the Private Partisan don't sound like a bad price , I'll order a case tomorrow probably. @washguy Edited January 17, 2019 by Lonewolf McQuade
Sisco Posted January 17, 2019 Report Posted January 17, 2019 That is good stuff. When I am not shooting handloads of Sierra 168 or 175 gr BTHP’s, that is the stuff I buy. And Privi is a close second. So close I probably wouldn’t notice the difference. Matt or 98 might, but not at the distances I normally shoot.
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Posted January 17, 2019 Just now, Sisco said: That is good stuff. When I am not shooting handloads of Sierra 168 or 175 gr BTHP’s, that is the stuff I buy. And Privi is a close second. So close I probably wouldn’t notice the difference. Matt or 98 might, but not at the distances I normally shoot. What distances are you primarily shooting?
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 17, 2019 Author Report Posted January 17, 2019 Another question for y'all. What options do I have for carrying an extra mag or 2 with this rifle configuration I posted above? (10 round pmags) normally I put a butt stock carrier/comb piece combo. But with this stock, that doesn't look to be a good option
Sisco Posted January 18, 2019 Report Posted January 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Lonewolf McQuade said: What distances are you primarily shooting? 100-200 yards. That is all I currently have access to. Working on joining a club that has a 600 yard range.
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Posted January 18, 2019 23 minutes ago, Sisco said: 100-200 yards. That is all I currently have access to. Working on joining a club that has a 600 yard range. Nice! I have a local range up to 200yds. Where we ground hog hunt, I've got distances out to 1800yds.
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 18, 2019 Author Report Posted January 18, 2019 22 hours ago, washguy said: Lone get you some Privi match 168...theres 175 too but I always shoot the 168 cause my scope is tuned to the 168 drop....saves bucks and shoots right there with the Federal....shop wisely and you can save some money. Wash not a great price but sumthin to go by https://www.sgammo.com/product/308-win-762x51-ammo/20-round-box-308-match-168-grain-bthp-prvi-partizan-ammo-pp321 Even better when I visited site. 2 cases, $297.79 including shipping!(400rounds)
washguy Posted January 19, 2019 Report Posted January 19, 2019 You done good! ..........that's the new packaging...wonder if the recipe is better or whatever? let me know Wash
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Posted January 19, 2019 2 hours ago, edgecrusher said: That’s a good price I thought so, better than federal was selling for when i bought from PSA. Wanted to get some rounds built up in case democraps foul things up & cause a shortage or the price to skyrocket!
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Posted January 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, washguy said: You done good! ..........that's the new packaging...wonder if the recipe is better or whatever? let me know Wash Thanks for the tip & link! Ill let you know how it shoots. It should be arriving Wednesday, I'll be hitting the range with it next Saturday.
98Z5V Posted January 19, 2019 Report Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) On 1/17/2019 at 4:14 PM, Lonewolf McQuade said: What distances are you primarily shooting? My main go-to distance for testing final loads and drops is 845 yards. Come up with loads and test for accuracy at 100 yards, and see how they do, starting at 0.3 grains apart. Pick the best ones with no pressure signs, and reload them in that range at 0.2 grains apart. Retest at 100 yards, and finalize the load. After that, they go to 500 yards and 845 yards for testing of the drop at those distances. It's quite the fun process... Edited January 19, 2019 by 98Z5V
Lonewolf McQuade Posted January 19, 2019 Author Report Posted January 19, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, 98Z5V said: My main go-to distance for testing final loads and drops is 845 yards. Come up with loads and test for accuracy at 100 yards, and see how they do, starting at 0.3 grains apart. Pick the best ones with no pressure signs, and reload them in that range at 0.2 grains apart. Retest at 100 yards, and finalize the load. After that, they go to 500 yards and 845 yards for testing of the drop at those distances. It's quite the fun process... Sounds like fun! (If all goes well) Edited January 19, 2019 by Lonewolf McQuade
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