Chinese Biological Espionage

jtallen83 · February 14, 2020

7 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

Ebola is a WAY different animal

I was not comparing the contagion itself but the fear mongering surrounding it, that is a very valid comparison. Hell the anthrax scare, the terrorist scare, any number of things the MSM/establishment uses to scare the population is comparable, not the actual facts or events, they seldom plays a role in keeping the population of sheeple headed the direction the establishment desires. Anyone care to make a bet on how long it will be before their are new laws on the books to "keep us safe"?

jtallen83 · February 15, 2020

So I posted this in politics as well, facts, comedy, and sarcasm, I kinda like this guy;

98Z5V · February 18, 2020

Here's some good shiit - this came from SOFREP:

The Coronavirus: Is China using it as a weapon?

by John Cote 3 days ago

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The Coronavirus: Is China using it as a weapon?

Television and radio news outlets are providing updates on the current spread of the Coronavirus.

The Coronavirus first presented itself to the medical researchers in 1960 when it was found in the respiratory tract of a patient with a common cold. It gets its name from the crown-like spikes which radiate out from all over the surface of the virus. Its discovery created the new form of virus, Coronaviridae.

Two other forms of Coronavirus exist and they are the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome or SARS, which was introduced into the human population in 2003 when a farmer in Guangdong China got it from a civet — a cat-like animal. Then in 2012, the Middle East Respiratory Syndrome MERS virus was isolated in a patient in Saudi Arabia. SARS spread to 37 different countries infecting a total of 8,448 patients and killing 858; the spillover came from Camels.

The current form of coronavirus is called Novel Coronavirus ( 2019-nCoV). It presented itself to the human population sometime in the early part of December 2019. We still do not know the origin of its jump from an animal to a human. Originally, the Chinese government claimed that the first case came from a Chinese Wet market located in Wuhan.

Fact: The Wuhan Wet market was inspected by government officials two months before the outbreak.
Fact: Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences was established in 2015 in Hubei China. This facility is the only Level BSL4 laboratory in China.
Fact: The Wuhan Institute is currently conducting studies with the coronavirus. This is known by the scientific papers published by staff members.
Fact: This new illness presented itself during the largest human migration of the year: the Chinese New Year celebration. Over 1.5 billion people are on the move across the globe visiting family members.
Fact: This illness presented itself during the normal flu season.
Fact: This illness appears to have a 14-day incubation period and the illness can be spread asymptomatically meaning it can be contagious even before the symptoms present themselves.
Fact: 2019-nCoV has no natural immunity.
Fact: There is no vaccine available.
Fact: Chinese officials have now stated it spreads by way of droplets and aerosols.

Nadine Gurr and Benjamin Cole stated in their book The New Face of Terrorism, threats from weapons of mass destruction: “Outside of war situations, states have used NBC weapons for covert operations many times.” As an example, they mention that “in the 1970s, Cuba accused the U.S.A. of being responsible for blue mold found on their tobacco crops, and cane smut on sugar cane. But since these blights are not unknown to Cuba, it’s impossible to tell if this was a covert Biological Weapons (BW) attack.”

The mayor of Wuhan was told by the Central Government of China to keep the outbreak of this new virus secret. He allowed five million people to leave Wuhan before steps were taken to restrict travel from the infected region. These five million people were the initial carriers of 2019-nCoV.

My contention is that this outbreak was a test to see how effectively this new weaponized virus would spread. History has shown that the Central Government of China cares little about its population. I would not be surprised if this were a test that has spun completely out of control.

The reason I believe that 2019-nCoV has been weaponized is that it is highly contagious even before symptoms start appearing in the victims. The one major diagnostic test used by officials to control the spread of the disease is checking the temperature of the patient and if they have a fever then they are suspected of having the virus. However, 2019-nCoV can be spread by patients who are asymptomatic, which means that symptoms wouldn’t show yet. Passengers carrying 2019-nCoV can easily pass through airport checkpoints undetected and they are still contagious.

Time will tell if I am correct or not.

98Z5V · February 18, 2020

Count the numbers that are out there on this coronavirus BS. It's the fucking FLU. It's just that nobody has a vaccine for this one yet. It's only "out of control" and "a major pandemic" because the Chinese DON'T VACCINATE. Can you imagine the pricetag for that country, to vaccinate it's (MASSIVE) population?! It doesn't happen - and they don't.

Therefore, it spread fast - if it was really just the FLU or not - if it's not some out of control bio-weapon that got out.

Here's the FLU this year in the United States. BIG difference in numbers. 26~36 million infections. Yeah, the number is THAT big, right here in the US. 12~17 millions visits to the doc over it. 250k~440k hospitalizations. 14k~36k DEATHS. That's right here in the United States. And we HAVE a vaccine. Now, during this FLU season, it already transitioned from one virus to a new virus - right here, in the US - and we don't have a vaccine for the new one... You get that next FLU season, at the end of this year. That's how FLU works... You NEVER get the vaccine for what might hit you - you get the vaccine for what happened LAST YEAR...

Don't believe me? Check CDC's own website on this info:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Coronavirus (3rd one, now) is just the FLU without a vaccine yet - and the Chinese weren't prepared for this. That is on them, and their infrastructure, not us. First one was SARS, second one was MERS, now it's the Novel Coronavirus. 3rd one in this pattern.

And more people die here a year from the common Influenza issues in this country. This is not a big deal - but the media won't let you buy that... :thumbup:

Why aren't they covering the somewhere-between 14K~36K deaths we've had in THIS COUNTRY, just from the regular old Influenza?...

Edited February 18, 2020 by 98Z5V

Sisco · February 18, 2020

4 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

Why aren't they covering the somewhere-between 14K~36K deaths we've had in THIS COUNTRY, just from the regular old Influenza?...

They do in the medical journals, but no one listens. Best advice: Wash your hands for 20 seconds once an hour. The only masks useful for viruses are W95’s. I don’t think it was a test. I think it was a monumental fuk up at the Wuhan lab. Remember the movie “12 Monkeys”? Hmmm.....

Edited February 18, 2020 by Sisco

Ravenworks · February 18, 2020

8 hours ago, 98Z5V said:

Count the numbers that are out there on this coronavirus BS. It's the fucking FLU. It's just that nobody has a vaccine for this one yet. It's only "out of control" and "a major pandemic" because the Chinese DON'T VACCINATE. Can you imagine the pricetag for that country, to vaccinate it's (MASSIVE) population?! It doesn't happen - and they don't.

Therefore, it spread fast - if it was really just the FLU or not - if it's not some out of control bio-weapon that got out.

Here's the FLU this year in the United States. BIG difference in numbers. 26~36 million infections. Yeah, the number is THAT big, right here in the US. 12~17 millions visits to the doc over it. 250k~440k hospitalizations. 14k~36k DEATHS. That's right here in the United States. And we HAVE a vaccine. Now, during this FLU season, it already transitioned from one virus to a new virus - right here, in the US - and we don't have a vaccine for the new one... You get that next FLU season, at the end of this year. That's how FLU works... You NEVER get the vaccine for what might hit you - you get the vaccine for what happened LAST YEAR...

Don't believe me? Check CDC's own website on this info:

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm

Coronavirus (3rd one, now) is just the FLU without a vaccine yet - and the Chinese weren't prepared for this. That is on them, and their infrastructure, not us. First one was SARS, second one was MERS, now it's the Novel Coronavirus. 3rd one in this pattern.

And more people die here a year from the common Influenza issues in this country. This is not a big deal - but the media won't let you buy that...

Why aren't they covering the somewhere-between 14K~36K deaths we've had in THIS COUNTRY, just from the regular old Influenza?...

Finally something we agree on.

4 hours ago, Sisco said:

They do in the medical journals, but no one listens. Best advice: Wash your hands for 20 seconds once an hour. The only masks useful for viruses are W95’s. I don’t think it was a test. I think it was a monumental fuk up at the Wuhan lab. Remember the movie “12 Monkeys”? Hmmm.....

Speaking as someone that temporary has a compromised immune system, washing your hands is the number one most important thing you can do for yourself.

After being on chemo for 7 months, I became a germ a phobe.

I finished chemo over a month ago and all my numbers are steadily climbing.

I will continue the practice of washing my hands frequently because believe it or not it works.

Sisco · February 18, 2020

22 minutes ago, Ravenworks said:

Finally something we agree on.

Speaking as someone that temporary has a compromised immune system, washing your hands is the number one most important thing you can do for yourself.

After being on chemo for 7 months, I became a germ a phobe.

I finished chemo over a month ago and all my numbers are steadily climbing.

I will continue the practice of washing my hands frequently because believe it or not it works.

Good luck with the treatment. I hope it takes care of the issue once and for all. I called on an Infectious Disease specialist back in the 1980’s who did a lot of the research proving that hand washing prevented infections more then any other single method. Wash your hands for a minimum of 20 seconds with soap and water. If you can’t use hand sanitizer and let it dry on your hands without wiping off.

jtallen83 · February 18, 2020

More to think about when it comes to this virus. Bill is usually a guy I trust for facts but he didn't give me much to go on in this video, hate to think he is part of the scare machine. There is a statement in the America Uncovered video that I wish could become more the focus of this issue, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to let the world economy hinge on an oppressive authoritarian regime, right Bill!

Sisco · February 18, 2020

1 hour ago, jtallen83 said:

There is a statement in the America Uncovered video that I wish could become more the focus of this issue, maybe it wasn't such a good idea to let the world economy hinge on an oppressive authoritarian regime, right Bill!

Truth there. Problem is, greed always wins. Doesn’t matter that the Chinese are working to subvert our Country, if they are cheaper, they get the business. I am all for that changing.

Sharpshooter · February 19, 2020

I'm awfully tired of seeing the "earnings this quarter" driving our businesses. The Chinese have a long-range viewpoint that says "win at the end" and we don't seem to recognize that as a genuine threat. I'd like to see someone who has a long-range vision propose something better.

unforgiven · February 19, 2020

The Chinese plan is reverse engineering and copy with $hit quality for cheap.

Sisco · February 19, 2020

Here is a report on some survival data on the Coronavirus.

https://www.sciencealert.com/large-chinese-study-finds-most-coronavirus-infections-are-mild

Edited February 19, 2020 by Sisco

jtallen83 · February 19, 2020

Some thoughts on chinese information on the virus;

I don't trust my own lying government let alone the commie party of china. Mark it down, this event will be used to grab more power, by their government, our government, the world gold government. They will not let a "crisis" go unanswered!

Edited February 19, 2020 by jtallen83
just spouting.......

jtallen83 · February 20, 2020

Another tidbit the MSM isn't saying much about. I am finding it difficult to receive the normal daily emails from ZeroHedge, I have re-subscribed numerous times, the subscription notice comes but the dailies never show up, almost like my email service doesn't want me to see what they say, must be flagged as "fake news"......... lots of articles there on this virus

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/canadian-scientist-center-chinese-bio-espionage-probe-found-dead-africa