ltxx84 Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 I need you guys' help wether I should buy the armalite 308 (E10A4CBMF) or DPMS Oracle. Obviously they are both great rifles. I just want more for the $$$ I'm paying for. If you guys could point out the goods and the bads, I would really appreciate it.
98Z5V Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 Questions first, that might answer your questions... ;DUltimately, is the rifle going to remain bone-stock as you buy it, or do you plan to upgrade it down the road, with additional parts?If you already have changes planned to a box-stock rifle, what are the parts that you're thinking of changing, as of now?What is the overall intent of the rifle? Hunting, paper-punching, benchrest shooting, etc.?Is there anything about either rifle on your list that makes you say, "I'd buy THAT one right now, if it only had "xxxx" part on it from the factory?That might help us help you, if that makes sense... <thumbsup>
ArmaLite Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 I need you guys' help wether I should buy the armalite 308 (E10A4CBMF) or DPMS Oracle. Obviously they are both great rifles. I just want more for the $$$ I'm paying for. If you guys could point out the goods and the bads, I would really appreciate it.Here are a couple of reasons ArmaLite came up with: http://www.armalite.com/Categories.aspx?Category=9130d428-59ca-4e87-bd77-5eff7fee728a
alelks Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 Larue. <thumbsup> <thumbsup> Enouth said <thumbsup>
edgecrusher Posted October 21, 2011 Report Posted October 21, 2011 i say +1 for larue but i'm bias, and only if you are willing to spend the money. otherwise i think you will get much more for your money with the armalite. just my opinion. i think as a base rifle the armalite is much better, my only beef is the mag.
imschur Posted October 22, 2011 Report Posted October 22, 2011 DPMS playing with dimensions pisses me off. Armalite has been at it a long time. They are the originators of the 308 platform The system is refined, perfected and battle proven. If I was spending the coin Armalite would be the clear choice.Disclaimer: My statement has nothing to do with them being an advertiser here.
survivalshop Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 Ya can't go wrong with any of the rifles mentioned . It will come down to , what you want to pay , what are your use plans , & if you want to change any thing past its stock configuration .
RayGun19 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 I love my AR10. The only thing that miffs me is that the gas block bore height is lower than the rail height on the receiver, so my Deuck Defense sights won't work. I have to have the gas block changed out for an aftermarket piece. Had I been aware of the difference I would have had it changed when I had the mods done at the armorer. That's my bad though. Maybe Armalite Guy can explain the reason for the lower rail height on the gas block?Other than than, I LOVE MY AR10. Tack driver, and I mean it. But with all the mods I did, I would order parts from them next time and just build it. The AR10A4 factory trigger is awesome as well. Smooth, crisp, no creep that I notice. Awesome.
blue109 Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 i have a DPMS upper with the raised rail, and the gas block rail is lower than the recv. not only seems pretty useless but looks funky too. dont plan on using irons anyway, but the aesthetics bug me.
imschur Posted October 23, 2011 Report Posted October 23, 2011 I love my AR10. The only thing that miffs me is that the gas block bore height is lower than the rail height on the receiver, so my Deuck Defense sights won't work. I have to have the gas block changed out for an aftermarket piece. Had I been aware of the difference I would have had it changed when I had the mods done at the armorer. That's my bad though. Maybe Armalite Guy can explain the reason for the lower rail height on the gas block?Other than than, I LOVE MY AR10. Tack driver, and I mean it. But with all the mods I did, I would order parts from them next time and just build it. The AR10A4 factory trigger is awesome as well. Smooth, crisp, no creep that I notice. Awesome.many gas blocks have rail heights lower than that of the HG. There are sights meant for those blocks as well as riser blocks.
RayGun19 Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 So you're saying I could simply at a riser to the front sight and correct the problem? According to Armalite guy I would need a riser that would add 0.398". Just to save time, know of any risers that height or damn close?I think it's a little ridiculous I have to add a riser at all. Just MHO. One more thing to add. It would cost more, but I'd really rather have the gas block swapped.
mrraley Posted October 24, 2011 Report Posted October 24, 2011 Why buy a riser when you could get the proper sights to go on an AR-10 gas block. ArmaLite is not the only one that does this. But for sights you could go with GG&G or MI. I know they both make them specifically for the AR-10 gas block. As for the OP.... along with some of the other questions that have already been asked... What location in the US is it that you live in?The EA rifle barrel is NOT chrome lined. That is why I ask. So depending on what type of climate you have, that is something you might want to take into consideration.
RayGun19 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 Because I wish to use Deuck Defense RTS, and I need the proper height for them to work properly.
mrraley Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 The Dueck sights are same plane sights and go on your hand guard system. You should have no problem with that.
RayGun19 Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 My "handguard system" is a Magpul MOE. So I need the gas block bore height the same. A riser is whats called for. By 0.400"
imschur Posted October 25, 2011 Report Posted October 25, 2011 My "handguard system" is a Magpul MOE. So I need the gas block bore height the same. A riser is whats called for. By 0.400"RayGun19 go here and scroll down a few paragraphs. I talk about a riser on my CMMG with MOE. Included is an image of MBUS 2 mounted on the riser.
constructor - Banned Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Armalite is MUCH better quality IMO I just wished they would make a lower that would handle the Pmag or DPMS style mag. I think they would sell a ton more rifles if the offered that as an optional lower...Tim?eta-IMO
edgecrusher Posted November 18, 2011 Report Posted November 18, 2011 Armalite is MUCH better quality IMO I just wished they would make a lower that would handle the Pmag or DPMS style mag. I think they would sell a ton more rifles if the offered that as an optional lower...Tim?eta-IMOI agree, but it's nice to know that their upper fits on my larue obr lower.
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