Pewpewpown Posted July 6, 2022 Report Share Posted July 6, 2022 (edited) Greetings, I am new to reloading and am looking to get primers but am having a hard time doing so. I am reloading rounds for an AR15 300 blackout and I want to avoid slam fires. I can't find any CCI 41 OR 450 PRIMERS but I can get some CCI BR-4 primers at the moment. I understand these are benchrest primers? Will they be good for my application? Thanks in advance Edited July 6, 2022 by Pewpewpown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike1476 Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 The BR-4 primers have the same cup thickness as the 450's and 41's (0.025"). They will work just fine for the 300 blackout, just be sure to start at the lower end of the powder range and work your way up...or down if you're loading subsonic. If you work up a load with the BR-4, and then switch to 450's or 41's, be sure to back off your load and work back up. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 12 hours ago, Pewpewpown said: am looking to get primers but am having a hard time doing so. We all are, right now. Welcome to the New World Order Of Reloading, in this day and age. Primers are hard to come by, unless you're looking for .50 BMG primers. Those are everywhere, but nothing else is. Expect to pay premium prices if you find something in stock. There are no "normal-priced primers" anymore. Not for the foreseeable future. Thanks, Joe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmackc Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 On 7/6/2022 at 11:29 PM, 98Z5V said: We all are, right now. Welcome to the New World Order Of Reloading, in this day and age. Primers are hard to come by, unless you're looking for .50 BMG primers. Those are everywhere, but nothing else is. Expect to pay premium prices if you find something in stock. There are no "normal-priced primers" anymore. Not for the foreseeable future. Thanks, Joe... I just remembered something from years past. .50 BMG primers were used to make .exploding 45 Auto cartridges, by drilling a hole in the nose of flat nose FMJ bullets and using a small drop f JB weld to glue the primers atop a small amount of Black powder . I bought a box of 12 at a gun show. They worked to make a large hole in the trunk of a tree when fired from my 1911 at 20 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pewpewpown Posted July 7, 2022 Author Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 (edited) Great info, thanks! Although the guy wants 140$ a box for them 😕 Edited July 7, 2022 by Pewpewpown Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 $140 a box isn't out of the question BR-4 primers these days. I bought a box more than six months ago from Brownells, and they were $125 before Hazmat, and shipping. They also had a box limit of 1 for that product; so I couldn't buy any more to help spread the fees around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 Better jump fast...... and HIGH! https://www.targetsportsusa.com/cci-small-rifle-5-56mm-nato-spec-military-primers-41-case-of-5000-cci1-p-112112.aspx https://www.targetsportsusa.com/cci-small-rifle-primers-400-case-of-5000-cci13-p-112015.aspx https://www.targetsportsusa.com/federal-premium-gold-medal-small-rifle-match-primers-205m-case-of-5000-gm205m-p-112134.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Posted July 7, 2022 Report Share Posted July 7, 2022 I paid $95 per 1,000 for CCI 41 back in November when I saw some in stock (but was stuck with a two box limit). All those options at TargetSportsUSA are $120 per 1,000 (plus you have to buy 5,000); but they do have a selection... And it says free shipping. They are in fact available if you want to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Please remember... Bench Rest Primers have more brilliance than other primers ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armed Eye Doc Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 Here is a list of links to online retailers with a supply of CCI primers. https://ammoseek.com/reloading/primers/CCI There are several retailers linked. Shipping and hazmat fees will obviously apply. You should do your due diligence before ordering online. I don't believe ammoseek would knowingly link to scam sites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 5 hours ago, jtallen83 said: Better jump fast...... and HIGH! https://www.targetsportsusa.com/cci-small-rifle-5-56mm-nato-spec-military-primers-41-case-of-5000-cci1-p-112112.aspx My most recent CCI 41 purchase is $130 per brick of 1k. For 5k, that price isn't out of line. With a TS membership, that's probably cheaper. @Matt.Cross, can you check into that and report back, brother? 2 hours ago, MikedaddyH said: Please remember... Bench Rest Primers have more brilliance than other primers ! Not really. @JBMatt has done a metric shiit-ton of chrono data with all kinds of primers for loads. CCI 41s come in the hottest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt.Cross Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 On 7/7/2022 at 11:32 PM, 98Z5V said: My most recent CCI 41 purchase is $130 per brick of 1k. For 5k, that price isn't out of line. With a TS membership, that's probably cheaper. @Matt.Cross, can you check into that and report back, brother? Not really. @JBMatt has done a metric shiit-ton of chrono data with all kinds of primers for loads. CCI 41s come in the hottest. Primers aren't discounted for me, loaded ammo is though. Loaded ammo is pretty much the only thing from the site that's heavily discounted for members to tell the truth, but that's pretty much all I ever bought anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lane Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 I didn't realize how much things changed over just a few months (yet again). I took a trip over to gunbroker after I posted; sure enough, the cheapest CCI 41s were $150 per 1,000 along with significant additional fees for shipping. How long before we hit the $0.20 per primer mark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtallen83 Posted July 8, 2022 Report Share Posted July 8, 2022 2 hours ago, Matt.Cross said: that's pretty much all I ever bought anyways. I can relate, hard for me to buy components when I can get something loaded for about the same.... but I really do need to pile some up, keep waiting to see if the new American maker will have an effect or is it just a runaway train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBMatt Posted July 10, 2022 Report Share Posted July 10, 2022 On 7/7/2022 at 8:32 PM, 98Z5V said: Not really. @JBMatt has done a metric shiit-ton of chrono data with all kinds of primers for loads. CCI 41s come in the hottest. BR-4's are about the only primer I haven't tested. Of all the primers I've tested in both 223/5.56 and 6mm ARC, the CCI 41's are definitely the hottest by about 20-40 fps between 2,700-2,800 fps. But their SD's aren't exactly stellar. They're hotter, but a little less consistent, for me. I've tested at the same time in both calibers: Fed 205, 205M, 205MAR Wolf Winchester SRP, WMSRL 41 CCI 41, 450 Rem 7 1/2 Bench Rest In my tests, I've consistently found that the CCI 450's have single digit SD's for the recipes I'm using. The worst are the WSR and Rem 7 1/2 with SD's well into double digits. Everything else falls in the acceptable category with Fed 205M's and CCI 41's as other good choices. If anyone wants to send me 1K CCI BR-4's, I'd be happy to include them in my testing! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve crawford Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 Last week I got 1,000 CCI 400 primers for less than $77.00 out the door at Academy Sports. I signed up for notification on their web site and about a week got the in stock notice. They are out of stock now. I also bought 1,000 CCI 400 from Gun Broker a couple of days before Academy got them in stock. Paid $105 and change shipped. Don't know if it was legal shipping or just not declared as HasMat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted February 16, 2023 Report Share Posted February 16, 2023 Used 500 CCI BR-4 primers on some 55gr 223 rounds this week. I'll test those on the spring shoot.. BTW it's not a hot load , only 75% charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
98Z5V Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 On 7/6/2022 at 8:48 AM, Pewpewpown said: I can't find any CCI 41 OR 450 PRIMERS OP hasn't been on here since last July, but here's a follow-up on CCI 41s. For those that need them. Diamond K Brass is a local Phoenix-based company, and they're legit. I've ordered from them routinely, in the past several years. CCI 41s, available - price is normal going rate these days. Just pick how many you can afford, they have packages available... https://www.diamondkbrass.com/search.php?mode=search&page=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted February 17, 2023 Report Share Posted February 17, 2023 I have also purchased from them a few years ago. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikedaddyH Posted February 21, 2023 Report Share Posted February 21, 2023 On 2/16/2023 at 3:09 PM, MikedaddyH said: Used 500 CCI BR-4 primers on some 55gr 223 rounds this week. I'll test those on the spring shoot.. BTW it's not a hot load , only 75% charge. Let me clear something up. That 75% is 3/4 from starting load to max load. A good starting point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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