Fal vs AR

[garryzgarage]

Well here goes I need to know if the dsa fal is ca legal, Iam that I have to Owen up that Iam in cal. But this was a question that I was asked, Also the person wants it to shoot moa groups but I really don't have a forte~for fals,I would think the move to AR 308 would be a better choice and money wise easier to support your help and input would be appreciate Gary

[unforgiven]

Welcome from Indiana brother garryzgarage.

[98Z5V]

Well here goes I need to know if the dsa fal is ca legal,...

You need to check out the CalGuns website, for accurate information on whether that rifle would be Cal-legal.  That will be your best source of open information, without a doubt.

[edgecrusher]

Best I've seen a fal shoot is 2" group, and after three months of me whooping my buddies ass with my mk214, he went out and got an 308ar, and just looses by less.

The only benefits of the fal is you won't care what ammo you put in it.

[planeflyer21]

Howdy garryzgarage!

Why don't you move over here to Arizona and buy whatever you want?

<thumbsup>

Jon

[planeflyer21]

Best I've seen a fal shoot is 2" group, and after three months of me whooping my buddies ass with my mk214, he went out and got an 308ar, and just looses by less.

The only benefits of the fal is you won't care what ammo you put in it.

What did the FAL group when you shot it?  :o

Jon

[edgecrusher]

2" or so. Neat plinker but that's about it. If I were to go with a different 308 semi platform, it would be a HK 91 for sure.

But that being said, ill keep my ar's thank you

[Matt.Cross]

2" or so. Neat plinker but that's about it. If I were to go with a different 308 semi platform, it would be a HK 91 for sure.

But that being said, ill keep my ar's thank you

This. I hate to say it but the AR type pretty much has the accuracy corner of the semi-auto market tied up, IMHO. In all my looking around, I haven't seen anybody offering a better platform, not when you consider the other strengths like modularity, durability, simplicity, reliability, and all the other "itties" etc. Mr. Eugene Stoner was the John M. Browning of his generation.

[Jgun]

IMO the .308 Galil is a better choice than the FAL, but comparing it to the AR is like apples and oranges. The AR is certainly more accurate but I believe the Galil is a tougher, more durable weapon, and I'd bet in a torture test would outlast the AR.

[planeflyer21]

IMO the .308 Galil is a better choice than the FAL, but comparing it to the AR is like apples and oranges. The AR is certainly more accurate but I believe the Galil is a tougher, more durable weapon, and I'd bet in a torture test would outlast the AR.

What are those rifles the IDF soldiers are always carrying on the news?

<laughs>

Jon

[Jgun]

Yeah, I know that the Israeli's use AR's (among other things), but I still stand by my last comment. The Galil is a very tough weapon, and I believe it would likely run longer without cleaning than a DI .308 AR. of course, it's also heavier, less accurate, and harder to mount optic/night vision/accessories to. I've also become more comfortable with the ergonomics of the AR than than any other gun, so it would likely be the gun I'd go to if I were to choose between the two, but I'd still take the Galil over the FAL. Of course that choice is also probably influenced to some extent by personal preference.

[jeffreyC]

Yeah, I know that the Israeli's use AR's (among other things), but I still stand by my last comment. The Galil is a very tough weapon, and I believe it would likely run longer without cleaning than a DI .308 AR. of course, it's also heavier, less accurate, and harder to mount optic/night vision/accessories to. I've also become more comfortable with the ergonomics of the AR than than any other gun, so it would likely be the gun I'd go to if I were to choose between the two, but I'd still take the Galil over the FAL. Of course that choice is also probably influenced to some extent by personal preference.

Look up "filthy 14" a DI 5.56 carbine with over 44,000 rounds through it without cleaning. Well lubricated, but not cleaned.

[Airborne89]

I have seen an FAL shot MOA, but the cost and finding the right person to do the work, make the AR a much better weapon to start with.

[Robocop1051]

Food for thought...

When Colt supplied the local SWAT here with 11.5" M4 Commando's, they gave implicit instructions NOT to lubricate the weapons. They said run the DI M4 dry, with the occasional barrel brush to keep out the oddities. If they got a malfunction of any sort (not contributed to operator error) they were to send the rifle back, no questions asked. After several days of training, firing full auto, all the rifles were put into service without error.

The Galil is no doubt a tough weapon, but look at the trade off. Loss of adaptability, accuracy and increased weight. How tough does a weapon need to be? If the weapon is tough enough to do the job consistently, does it need to be tougher??