DPMS

shibiwan · January 30, 2014

Moving weights inside the buffer is the way it's supposed to be. Stops or lessens bolt bounce when the BCG slams forward. Normal.

Yup, that's like a dead blow hammer. Go futz around at an Ace Hardware and look at the Nupla deadblow hammers (flourescent orange - cant miss them) and they use moving steel shot inside the head to deaden the bounce.

survivalshop · January 31, 2014

Is the Bolt Carrier , Key , part of the Bolt Carrier or attached in some way ?

Is it screws or pins or rivets , holding that steel feed ramp on ?

beachmaster · January 31, 2014

The carrier is monolithic, so the gas key is an integral part of the bcg.

The steel feed ramps look to be pinned. I could be very wrong.

survivalshop · January 31, 2014

Looks like some kind of pin on the Key , at the back part of it , is why I asked . Nice looking rifle .

392heminut · January 31, 2014

It looks to me like the tube part of the carrier key is pinned into the main part.

beachmaster · January 31, 2014

Good questions. No, its definitely one piece, but there is a plug in the back of the gas key, and I believe that is what that pin is for. Im sure being a one piece deal has forced them to get creative with the machining. :-)

98Z5V · January 31, 2014

Looks like the base of the gas key is part of the carrier - but the round forward portion is one single, longer "tube" that is pressed and pinned into place in that key body/carrier...

Rsquared · January 31, 2014

^^^^ Think you nailed it.

beachmaster · January 31, 2014

I had to pull the bolt out again thinking you were wrong, but I believe you are correct. Everything is machined, and the top of the gas key has a hole drilled through it, in which they pressed in a tube that was blocked on one end (the back that I showed in the last picture) and they staked it in place. Seems like a really strong set up to me.

survivalshop · January 31, 2014

This will be interesting watching these mod's. progress .

392heminut · January 31, 2014

Looks like the base of the gas key is part of the carrier - but the round forward portion is one single, longer "tube" that is pressed and pinned into place in that key body/carrier...

^^^^That's what I was trying to say, I'm just a lazy typer! <lmao>

beachmaster · February 1, 2014

My bad, I mis understood you

beachmaster · February 2, 2014

Well, I got the chance to take the rifle out yesterday. It is recommended that you clean the bore after every shot for 25 rounds, then every 25 rounds for a hundred rounds. I punched the bore every round for the first twenty, then I really cleaned the bore after the next twenty, and i will continue to clean the bore every 20 rounds for the next 80.

All cases ejected at about the 0330 position. If I did my part, im pretty sure I could have put a 5 gallon bucket out and collected brass that way :-)

Speaking of brass, its time for me to start reloading! This tax return thats the direction I will be going in.

I had no failures of any sort. I am starting to see wear on the buffer tube and in some other places, but its WAY to early to tell if it is premature wear or normal wear.

I was surprised at how clean the rifle was after (only) 40 rounds. My issue m4 ran much, much dirtier.

The first 20 rounds I fired were Winchester white box, the next were zq1 from Turkey. The brass showed little to no damage after being spent.

I shot at 25 and 100 yards. It was 61 degrees, with wind gusts between 5 and 10mph. I shot off a bench, with a front support. (A wool blanket bunched up) I only used iron sights. My groups sucked. It wasnt the rifles fault.

So far I am very happy. There are a couple of small issues I have, and i will post pictures tomorrow.

One of those issues is the bolt release does not fit into the depression in the upper receiver, so it has marred the finish all up. Does it matter? Not really, but i find it to be irritating.

More to follow soon

dirigoboy · March 1, 2014

Noticed that this GII is being advertised as .308/7.62. In 2009, I opted to by my DPMS AP4 in caliber 7.62. Anyone know what this new designation means? Can you order either, or did this change somehow? Not sure I asked the question right.

survivalshop · March 1, 2014

They could have a hybrid cut chamber , like Fulton Armory does on there Krieger Criterion 308 barrels .FA says , you can shoot both in there's , Although I really can't see a difference now a days . The .308 cut chamber may be a little better shooter , I say, may , be a better shooter.

dirigoboy · March 1, 2014

Thanks for the response, as I wasn't sure what it meant. Hopefully others will chime in as well.

seasprite · March 1, 2014

Nice looking rifle and good review beachmaster <thumbsup>. Now I'm wanting to know if DPMS kept the accuracy that there earlier rifles are known for at least in the .308 market. I know my oracle shoots sub MOA with my reloads I hope they kept that kind precision going on the new model. Do you plan on putting some glass on it and see what its capable of doing accuracy wise? and with the thinner barrel and nut is barrel heating going to be more of an issue?

beachmaster · March 2, 2014

So far I can only tell you that my accuracy sucks lol

But into plan on putting glass on it and seeing what the rifle can do. I have high expectations.

For me, I dont believe I will have any issues with heat. I wont be doing any mag dumps. When shooting at a fairly typical range rate (maybe 5-10 rpm), I noticed no substantial heat build up. (Not that I grabbed the barrel)

Next weekend I will be shooting a bit more, and I have started reloading, which will help me out alot.

beachmaster · March 2, 2014

I will be putting more full review up on YouTube soon. :-)

beachmaster · March 2, 2014

Noticed that this GII is being advertised as .308/7.62. In 2009, I opted to by my DPMS AP4 in caliber 7.62. Anyone know what this new designation means? Can you order either, or did this change somehow? Not sure I asked the question right.

You cant order either, the single barrel will shoot either.