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.308 AR-based battle rifle?


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I'm already set on the Trijicon VCOG 1-6x with a custom BDC.

 

You're gonna drop this kind of money on an optic, and you're bitching about the cost of some of the other parts that we're recommending?

 

Are you serious?

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You're gonna drop this kind of money on an optic, and you're bitching about the cost of some of the other parts that we're recommending?

 

Are you serious?

 

If you're referring to my comment about the KAC's price, that's due to the diminishing returns I'd likely see from spending that much money on a "blaster."

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Rifles, barrels, all of it.  You want something to stand up to military abuse - but you don't want to pay those kinds of prices.  It's through this thread, in your comments.

 

I'm about to contact Rainier about their Noveske barrel. I'm gonna have to suck that one up no matter what, since Lothar Walther's cost for a custom barrel is about the same price.

 

As far as I've been told, the Armalite is about as reliable as the Larue, which is about as reliable as the KAC, which is about as reliable as the blah blah blah...

 

I'm sure the KAC is awesome and all, but it seems that I'd be better served buying something less expensive and decking it out with the parts I want. From there, I can spend the difference on ammo. Seems like a decent plan to me.

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I'm sure the KAC is awesome and all, but it seems that I'd be better served buying something less expensive and decking it out with the parts I want. From there, I can spend the difference on ammo. Seems like a decent plan to me.

 

At that rate you're better off buying parts and building it from scratch.

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I looked at the PredatOBR. Beautiful rifle, although I couldn't seem to find the weight. It also has that weird breakdown feature, which I honestly have no use for. I'd hate to spend extra money on a feature I don't need. Maybe the PredatAR would be a better fit?

 

 

 

 

I'm lost on this "weird breakdown feature" you referred to on the LaRue - what exactly are you talking about on that rifle?

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Holy $hit, you guys can't be serious here.  You DO know why they made a quick-release handguard, right?  Right?

 

Smaller packing.  You can break this rifle down and ship/move it in a smaller case.  Even a backpack, for overland movement.  Being able to quickly (and easily) take the free-float handguard off, and easily remove the barrel, is in order to break the rifle down for movement r packaging/packing. 

 

It has nothing to do with maintenance of the rifle, or separating the upper and lower receivers for weapons maintenance.  Nothing to do with it.

 

Hell, Ruger was deemed "genius!" for the 10/22 Takedown, and you guys are afraid of this rifle for the same reason?  You gotta be kidding.

 

Now, on to other information, this is only a feature on the PredatOBR.  He said he doesn't want the 20 MOA rail on the LaRue, and that's the PredatOBR.

 

The PredatAR has a 0-MOA rail.  The PredatAR doesn't have this takedown feature.  Which is a Big Bonus, by the way...

 

I don't even know what to say here...  <dontknow> :ugone2far:

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Now, on to other information, this is only a feature on the PredatOBR.  He said he doesn't want the 20 MOA rail on the LaRue, and that's the PredatOBR.

 

The PredatAR has a 0-MOA rail.  The PredatAR doesn't have this takedown feature.  Which is a Big Bonus, by the way...

Wait, so are you saying the PredatOBR has a 20MOA rail or doesn't? (because it doesn't have a 20MOA rail).

I've seen several "Quick Disconnect" barrel solutions starting to hit the market. I think that's the new thing. :D

Wonder if/how much the zero shifts after a takedown-reassembly.

LaRue says 0-0.5MOA. I'll test my MWS once US Optics decides to get off their ass and fix my scope (they have terrible communication).

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LaRue says 0-0.5MOA. I'll test my MWS once US Optics decides to get off their ass and fix my scope (they have terrible communication).

 

Followup question - if you change from one barrel to another how much does the zero shift? I expect it to shift by quite a bit due to the variances between barrel. That probably means a separate zeroed scope for each barrel.

 

Now thinking about stacking the tolerances between the QD barrels and each matching scope's own QD mount ring .... probably adds up to 1.5MOA in the worst case scenario.

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Followup question - if you change from one barrel to another how much does the zero shift? I expect it to shift by quite a bit due to the variances between barrel. That probably means a separate zeroed scope for each barrel.

 

Now thinking about stacking the tolerances between the QD barrels and each matching scope's own QD mount ring .... probably adds up to 1.5MOA in the worst case scenario.

Lucky for you I have two MWS barrels to test this with :)

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